At 10:53 AM 12/18/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Do any U.S. airlines fly A340? No. >Apparently the proposed change of 4-engine ETOPS rules might require >change of some B747 routes. You mean the proposal that three and four-engined jets will also have to observe the 207 minute rule, I presume. >A couple of weeks ago I took the SAA B747-400 non-stop from Atlanta to >Jo'berg. Does that route keep within the ETOPS distances all the way? Time to remind people of gc.kls2.com. :-) ATL-JNB is shown as within 180 minute limits, and the proposal is for 207 minute limits. They'd have to use a slightly longer course at 138 minute limits (2 hours plus 15%; 207 minutes is 3 hours plus 15%), but that's not the proposal. Nick