Retired
Al
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bahadir Acuner=20
To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU=20
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 12:35 AM
Subject: PA30 (RE: Re: runway lengths SOLVED and DEN update)
That's 35 years before I got mine.. heck I wasn't even born back =
then.. It
is amazing that the plane that I am flying is older than me.
(Our PA30 is 1966 model) .
What are you flying these days Al?
BAHA
Fan of nice airplanes being around many many years after their date of
manufacture
-----Original Message-----
From: allan9 [mailto:exatc@neo.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:03 PM
To: Bahadir Acuner; airline
Subject: Re: Re: runway lengths SOLVED and DEN update
By the way my initial multi training was in 1965
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: Bahadir Acuner
To: allan9 ; airline
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:30 PM
Subject: RE: Re: runway lengths SOLVED and DEN update
I didn't say that I was doing stalls, just touch and go's .. :)
I don't have a problem with the airplane doing stalls at 3000 ft.. =
Now
if you are talking about Vmc demostration, then I think 11,000 feet =
would be
better :)
It's an extremely fast airplane. We have all the LoPresti speed =
modes
that you can think about on this bird. I even did 190KTS in a normal =
descent
on this without even coming close to the red line.. I love the =
airplane, the
way it flies, and handles.. Landings are not too bad either.. The =
thing that
amazes me is the fact that we have 160hp on each side and it's normal =
to get
150-160 kts on the cruise without pushing the airplane too hard.. On =
the
other twin that I have the most of my time with, a PA44, 180 hp on =
each
side was not enough to get to 140 KTs.
That makes you appreciate the slick aerodynamics of the PA30 :)
Regards,
BAHA
Fan of having 2 hrs scheduled on PA30 tomorrow..
-----Original Message-----
From: allan9 [mailto:exatc@neo.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:21 PM
To: The Airline List; Bahadir Acuner
Subject: Re: Re: runway lengths SOLVED and DEN update
You're brave.
When I was getting my multi, my instructor wouldn't do a stall =
unless
we were at least 3000AGL. He didn't trust the aircraft at all.
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: Bahadir Acuner
To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: runway lengths SOLVED and DEN update
PA30
-----Original Message-----
From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU]On =
Behalf
Of
allan9
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 5:33 PM
To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: runway lengths SOLVED and DEN update
PA30 or PA39?
Al
----- Original Message -----=3D20
From: Bahadir Acuner=3D20
To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU=3D20
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: runway lengths SOLVED and DEN update
Moses Lake, WA
Rwy 14L/32R.. 13502 x 300 feet :) Once I shared a pattern at =
this
=3D
aiport
with a JAL
747-400 I was flying our schools Twin Comanche ..
BAHA
Fan of wathing 747-400 doing touch and goes :)
-----Original Message-----
From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU]On =
Behalf
Of =3D
W
Wilson
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:02 AM
To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Re: runway lengths SOLVED and DEN update
You can add slightly more for BGR. The total length at BGR =
is =3D
actually
13,109 with a total usable 11,439 for both take-off and =
landing =3D
inclusive.
http://www.flybangor.com/specs.asp
Walter
DCA
----- Original Message -----
From: "alexa d lancaster" <adjld14410@yahoo.com>
To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 12:37
Subject: runway lengths SOLVED and DEN update
> Hi all, I have done some digging and this is what I found.
Thanks =3D
to all
who
> helped.
>
> JFK tops at 14572, followed by DFW with 13401, MIA and ORD =
with
=3D
13000 and
the
> BGR one, which, depending on the source is 12680.
>
> I used to live in Denver, and I know that one of the DEN =
runways
now =3D
has
an
> unofficial "usable" length of 13-something. I remember =
that =3D
modifications
were
> made to accommodate the Lufthansa FRT flight United wanted =
so
bad in
Denver.
> In the thin Denver air in the summer, a full plane cant
effectively =3D
take
off or
> something to that nature was the concern. Also, the new =
runway
at =3D
DEN to
come
> online in 04 or 15 will top them all at 16,000.
>
> Alexa
> CLE
>
> =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D
> "If you go back to the beginning of this country, the
> great strength of America, as de Tocqueville pointed out =
when he
=3D
came here
a long time ago, has always been our ability to associate =
with
people =3D
who
were different from ourselves and to work together to find =
common
> ground."
>
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