i certainly hope TCAS has improved since I retired (It almost put 4 together northwest of ORD) I'll see if I still have the plots. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bahadir Acuner" <bahadiracuner@yahoo.com> To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:36 AM Subject: Re: Qantas jumbos in near miss > Grant and Al, > it sounded fishy from the beginning.. I guess the separation was never lost > but > it was just a mistake that didn't result in a bad outcome. > > BAHA > Fan of TCAS systems keeping us safer at the altitude.