>> how did you install the other yum? >> >> they have conflicting files, it seems to me that you only could have >> done this via --force. I don't recall exactly and don't have exact notes. But, I don't use --force without a lot of convincing. I my humble experience --force is bad. I got the yum-2.0.4-20031205 version as a manual download. I can't say for sure what rpm command was used to install it. Checking my yum-list archive, it seems to have been in response to your announcement of a new daily build: Subject: [Yum] 2.0.X daily release Date: 12/05/2003 03:36 AM Contrary to what I said in my first post, I can't find any notes of a yum problem at that time. I was just checking out a daily build and didn't have any problems with it. I doubt I'd have used --force that time without a reply on this list. The second version is in the yum.log file: ... 02/13/04 16:53:51 Updated: yum 2.0.5-1.fd.fr.noarch ... There were quite a few other updates in that run. On that box all runs of "yum update" are manual. I don't manually do "yum update yum" first. Is it time to start? Today's "yum update" run is the first since 02/13/04. Does that help? Cliff Kent