On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Hedemark, Magnus wrote: > Garrick Staples [mailto:garrick@xxxxxxx] said: > > > Our only solution is to take up Fedora and do two things: continue > > updates past 1 year, and build it for all arches. That leaves one > > question, when do we start? > > Who wants to host the server(s)? Not all of us are .edu's with free fat > pipes to sit on. ;) The same folks that host RH mirrors now, for example. Who are often .edu's with "free" fat pipes (which aren't all that free, but which necessarily have a lot of free capacity at any given time). As one might expect, this will likely end up a standard tree -- primary site mirrored to first tier sites, mirrored again to second tier sites, mirrored down to the LAN level (with dynamic adjustments as required). As long as most LAN admins build a local yummified mirror, rather than try to yum at the client level directly FROM the mirrors, this will scale to infinity and beyond with no more than 1-4 day lags between primary site and desktop (depending on the tier one mirrors at and the frequency one uses to resync your mirror). If the level one tier resyncs 4x a day (but restricts access to their own local systems and level two mirrors) and the level two mirrors restrict access and permit resync 2x a day, the level three and beyond mirrors could resync 1x a day and still very likely stay within one (additional) day of the toplevel mirror, which is pretty damn good. There are probably ways to cut this down in an emergency (a serious exploit, for example, that needs to be corked in 36 hours or less at the client level). A mailing list for all admins with level three or higher mirrors, where primary site maintainers could announce specific windows for emergency resync's down the ladder, or a specific directory on the primary site from which ALL mirrors could rsync "urgent/critical" updates on a six hour basis (presumed to be small enough that bandwidth bottlenecking won't be a problem) until the updates propagate down through the normal tree. Yum actually makes this latter possibility rather attractive, as it can handle both the rpm replication and the additional "critical" repository quite transparently. rgb > _______________________________________________ > Yum mailing list > Yum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.dulug.duke.edu/mailman/listinfo/yum > -- Robert G. Brown http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/ Duke University Dept. of Physics, Box 90305 Durham, N.C. 27708-0305 Phone: 1-919-660-2567 Fax: 919-660-2525 email:rgb@xxxxxxxxxxxx