On Mon, 2005-19-12 at 22:14 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >Am I the only person here who has had ANY security training at all? > > > >There are a lot of people out there who wish to do harm to anything they > >can - or at the very least send us crap about viagra and cialis. > > > >We need to stop being naive and act accordingly. > > > If someone happens to deface or spam a few non central wiki pages, how > does that affect security? * Any system that is world-writable is implicitly less secure than a system that isn't. * Generally, you have to have the visibility and dedication of a project the size of the Wikipedia to achieve the level where noise to contribution ratio reaches sensible levels. I've seen a number of open-source projects where wikis were completely unusable due to spam and defacements. * Nobody perusing a project like Wikipedia is going to use it for something other than for the purposes of trivia and personal curiosity -- your doctor is not going to print out the article on Gall_bladder before your surgery appointment. On the other hand, Fedora's wiki /must/ be a repository of documents that are reliable enough for a panicking sysadmin to refer to in the case of time-pressing system failure. When your system doesn't boot, you don't want to have to worry if the advice proffered on the documentation site was put there by a bored joker, or whether "cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda" is really going to fix your bootloader issues (professional driver on a closed course, don't try this at home, etc, etc). * Lastly, is there a problem in the first place? Or are we just idly mulling over potential benefits of an all-open system vs. selective system? Is the current solution not working? Regards, -- Konstantin Ryabitsev McGill University WSG Mal: (to Simon) "If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed."