On 1/13/25 3:46 AM, Tim via users wrote:
Tim via users wrote:
I quite like the (old) Gnome menus.
ToddAndMargo:
Take a look at MATE
https://fedoraproject.org/spins/mate
Just simple. And gets the job done
Yes, it's what I've been using for many years. It's so close to being
the old Gnome, that it's virtually the same. And it's not just the
simpleness of how it looks, it doesn't place big demands on the OS.
The fancier ones were too much of a drain on resources. And if you
were trying to break into the office desktop market, having a release
that requires an expensive graphic card just ain't gonna fly.
I've put Mint on a few people's PCs when I've been asked to replace
Windows with something that doesn't drive them nuts. They'd heard of
it, heard good things, so I've done that. I've shown them my system,
with Fedora or CentOS running Mate and asked if they'd like something
the same, and set Mint up with the same kind of desktop.
I can't stand the usual Ubuntu install. I can't find where they've
hidden things. A friend using it can't multitask, he can't swap
between browser and something else (he closes the browser to find the
desktop to start something, then closes that to find the desktop to
restart the browser), so I wouldn't call it idiot-friendly. And if you
went looking for answers on their forum, it was always the blind
leading the blind. Trying to do updates was confusing. Which program
was the updater? What's this package manager do? Why won't it update
Firefox? (They, Ubuntu, had blocked Firefox from being updated, you
had to force it, and had to find out how to do that.)
So just about any OS has its stupidities in design. And that's why
they invented Mac, as another friend would say... I find various Mac
users to be the most rudimentary of computer literate. Oh it can't do
this, so they make no attempt to try. I tried telling one that they
could just drag and drop a file into something to use it, only for them
to tell me that "it isn't Windows," completely oblivious to really
being the Mac that pioneered drag-n-drop (I'm deliberately saying
pioneered rather than invented - they really spread the technique, I'm
not sure who really invented it).
1+ Well stated!!!
Oh and on the Mac front. Virtually every user I have
helped I have had to show them how to restart and shut
down their computer and how to actuality exit their programs.
A tablet would do them much better than a $3000 computer
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