Stephen Morris: > I'm not sure how Evolution does its thing as I've never used it. If I > had the time to invest in setting up a mail system I would still be > using Lotus Notes. Over the years I've used Amiga, Windows, Linux, Mac, and mainframes before the public internet (still have a few Data General punch cards, well the ones you filled in with lead pencil rather than punched holes with a tool). I've tried out a variety of email programs, often because the default application was absolutely crap at many of the things I've already brought up. Out of what are probably the two current main ones on Linux, Evolution and Thunderbird, I found Evolution to be the least worst. I know, that's a terrible way to select a program to use. Thunderbird's slowness and what you see as you type isn't necessarily what you'll get when you're done, vetoes it for me. Likewise with it's modification of received mail to re-render it. I don't use KDE, I can't stand it, and I didn't like their email program when I tried it long ago. Main criteria: * IMAP * Ease of navigating through folders and new mail * Not making reading a message difficult * Not absolutely crap at replying to messages * Not slow as mollasses bogging down the CPU * Not a complete pain to transition mail from an old install to a new system installation (mostly made easier by a local IMAP server and never using the mail client as local storage). * Able to turn off *helpful* features (continual background checking for new mail, mail filtering, unfettered downloading of things included in HTML mail, etc). * No hideously designed interfaces, which includes how you configure it, not just how you use it. Tim: > > Another pet hate with email over the last quarter century > > was mail > > clients that just can't get line wrapping right, and would > > turn messages > > into *this* kind of stupidly folded lines where there was a > > long line and > > a short overflow onto the next line > Yeah, I have seen a mail package do that, but I have also seen people > deliberately format their mail that way and had to reformat the text > when moving it out of the mail, eg: when moving the text into excel > to server as instructions on what should be done in the form > environment being exposed by the excel workbook. > It's due to incompetent programming. Email has two MAIN functions of reading and writing mail. Get THAT right before adding fancy features. Much of that is caused by old habits of keeping messages under 80 columns wide, from the days of reading text using command line programs. And not knowing how to sensibly re-wrap text. Not helped by programs that decide to hard wrap text when they don't need to. Few people read email on a console, most read it in a GUI, often with a proportional font (not the best choice for anything that typed code or figures). Email does NOT have a 80 column line length restriction. There are client and server programs that do have line length issues, but it tends be something more like 999 characters, or much greater (i.e. massively different than 80 characters). So already 80 column pre-wrapped text can stay as it is, just becoming two or more characters longer by the greater-than quote prefixes, and still be perfectly readable by the vast majority of readers. Or could be sensibly re-flowed, but is often better not because the author may have hand-tabulated data, or copied and pasted some code. Hand typed text certainly doesn't need to be stuffed up that way, either. I've seen clients that allow you type type longer than 80 character lines, then badly mangle it down to 80 characters afterwards. I seem to recall that was Microsoft's appalling Outlook Express (with a gazillion other stupidities built into it - let's execute attachments without due care, for instance, not even bothering to ask the recipient first). -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
