On 2/12/24 22:39, Tim via users wrote:
On Mon, 2024-12-02 at 08:54 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:Sorry, this is my fault. I'm used to working with html mails where the response is black text and the quotes are colour coded for quotes from different responders, and I keep forgetting that environments that insist on using text only potentially don't have the colour coding to make things obvious.I am seeing your HTML mail, and while it does highlight the edge of different sections, one huge slab of text makes it difficult to find new comments in the middle. And when replying to such things, quotes often get joined together that shouldn't. It doesn't matter whether you post HTML or plain text, it helps things an awful lot when there's a gap between things. Just the same as it helps when people use paragraphs. I know someone on another list who can write three pages of text as one paragraph. My eyes run out of breath reading them. My mail program does colour quotes different from new content, but with plain text mail all quotes are grey, new text is black. And if a poster didn't leave a gap between quotes and replies, often the reply is coloured the same as the quote. With HTML mail, it relies on the message styling itself. Yours are all black text, with coloured stripes running down the side.
That's interesting. In Thunderbird I'm seeing things differently, depending on who is reply to threads I'm seeing the entire quote with a black line down the side and text in black, for other people I see a coloured stripe and the text in blue.
For the quotes you are replying to I see a dark blue stripe and light blue text with your response in black. What is also interesting is that for to portion of your response I'm replying to, in this composition that quote has a dark blue stripe and black text.
I'm used to mailing lists being read by people using a diverse range of email clients, that all behave in different ways, and are often read by people with bad eyesight. Making things easy to follow makes life easier for everyone.Just on the formatting front, the way the quotes are formatted, with Tim's name above his quote and Patrick's name above his quote, from what I'm seeing is a recent departure from what I'm used to seeing as standard for quotes.Not everybody quotes the same. I edit my replies. I try to make it easy to tell who said what, rather than make people count the indents, etc. The way things often get done, people often get misquoted (saying someone else said what they said) with them all stacked up the top separate from the content. I try to make it so you can slice off quotes of quotes in one fell swoop, and still have the name of the last contributor above their own text. And usually edit out the quotes of quotes of quotes (like we're supposed to do), if they really aren't needed to follow what's written in a message.
In my response to Patrick on this formatting, I've only started seeing your mails and one of Patrick's carved up that way in the last week, and like I said to Patrick, I'm not saying it is a problem I'm just saying from what I'm used to seeing on this mail list its unusual.
I'm also used to seeing who the respondent was in a message above each quote, but that seems to have been changed recently as well.
regards,
Steve
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