Tim: > > Next biggest issue is logons. Which password for which service? No, > > don't use the same one everywhere. You've suffered the consequences of > > doing that before, why haven't you learnt? Choose something that you > > can actually type correct, but nobody else will guess. Don't give XYZ > > your Gmail password when it asks you to log-on with an email address > > and password. Argh..... Michael Hennebry: > Write them down and put them in your pocket. > A copy elsewhere is also a good idea. I've spent years trying to get one person to do that sanely. I finally convinced them to use a notebook. Then I saw how they filled it out. Page after page of email addresses, and passwords, no clues what service they're associated with. They'll just try one after another until something works. There's just no helping some people. He didn't even try copying the method I used whenever I set something up for him, I'd write out an index card for it and give it to him. Name of service: (e.g. Gmail) Logon: (name or email address) Password: cookmyeggswithwine (and the date this was set) Email: (if the logon is not the email address) Phone number: (if they have help lines, or if you gave them yours) Include other details (if they ask secondary security questions) Any time you change passwords write the new one with its date. It helps you keep track, especially if you've made duplicate notes for the service's log-on. Dates may also help if you have to ring up a service for help and they ask you when you last changed your password. It can also help determine if you've been hacked or something is just messed up (if your password was changed last week, but you set it six weeks ago). You keep your little black book where you can always find it, and not where someone else expects it to be (right next to your PC). Guard such things like your keys and wallet. You're also batting your head against a brick wall trying to get them to create good passwords. Password123 is stupid, so is Gmail2024! and 3432DxQO0DSf4352x#^@ is damn near impossible to type correctly, especially on smartphones. It doesn't help that services create really stupid rules, either. Some of which feel like they used software from the 1970s (6 to 8 characters, must have a capital letter, number, and a symbol). And there's no point trying to convince him to use a password manager, it'd be just as chaotically unorganised, and he'd lose the password for it... Another friend did that, hundreds of passwords lost because the password manager only allows three attempts to log-in before self- destructing. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
