On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:12:46 -0500 "Todd Zullinger" <tmz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Andras Simon wrote: > > Le mar. 19 nov. 2024, 16:16, Todd Zullinger <tmz@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit : > > > >> [...] > >> > >> ¹ I'm sure many people swear by pip, but I think it's barely > >> better than running `curl ... | bash` to install things, > >> which I consider to be a bad practice. > > > > I agree, but is there a better way when something is not > > packaged for Fedora (other than packaging it, and all its > > dependencies for Fedora)? > > Short of packaging things, running it in a container is a > mild improvement. It's still a hideous thing to do and if > you're going to run the software more than once or twice, > packaging it properly is worth the effort. But for a quick > one-off, I could stomach running pip inside a container. > > My bias comes from looking at things as a sysadmin rather > than a developer. So I place more importance on having a > solid, auditable, reproducible system than on getting > library X, Y, and Z installed quickly so I can prototype > some new feature for a product manager. > I am a retired Sysadmin who fully understands all the frustrations brought about by the SW installation without real control. Although only for my system, I regularly build a SW package (RPM) for SW, which is not in distribution. Which is actually quite easy. So I always have a clean system and can be very easy to update or delete. However, this is less and less necessary as more SW is available. BR -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue