Re: urgent major problem after f39 to f40 upgrade.

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On 10/12/24 5:05 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 10/12/24 3:16 PM, home user via users wrote:
On 10/12/24 3:58 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
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I might be treading on old ground here, but the above output is showing that you have nouveau blacklisted so it will not start. If you are booting to a console because your nvidia drivers aren't working yet allowing nouveau to be used may get you to a graphic login. To remove the multiple occurrences of rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau, modprobe.blacklist=nouveau you may want to remove them from the kernel line in /etc/default/grub and rebooting.
If that gets you a graphic interface, to get the nvidia drivers working via akmods you may have to redo the uefi signing signing processes if you are booting via uefi. I had to do that resigning when I upgraded from F39 to F40.

I don't recall how to determine whether this workstation boots bois or uefi or something else.  I don't recall hwo to determine this. It;s 11 years old; I'm thinking it's bios.

Samuel later says to leave blacklist part in the BOOT_IMAGE line.

I'll come back to the digital signing later.

If it's BIOS, then you don't need that.  But even if you do have UEFI, you must have secure boot turned off because the modules are loading, so there's no problem there.

If you have UEFI, then there will be a line from running "mount" that looks like this:
/dev/nvme0n1p1 on /boot/efi type vfat ...
(different drive of course, but most likely p1 anyway)


-bash.4[~]: mount | grep p1
-bash.5[~]:

grep for "efi" would have been better.  The p1 is not guaranteed.  But I do wonder what you do have on partition 1 that it's not mounted.  Do you have windows on this computer as well?

-bash.1[~]: mount | grep efi
-bash.2[~]:

Yes, this is a dual-boot workstation.  The other operating system is windows-7.  That's been key to this thread.  I've using windows-7 for the e-mailing and most other things.  To try things list members suggest or get information list members request, I switch to Fedora, run what I gotta run and redirect output to a text file, and then switch back to windows-7.  The windows-7 has the "ext2explore" that can copy the output file to the windows-7 storage, which I can then paste/attach into e-mail.


For years, I've been seeing lines like these during boot:

-bash.5[~]: journalctl -b | grep taint
Oct 12 12:31:47 coyote kernel: nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel.
Oct 12 12:31:47 coyote kernel: nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
Oct 12 12:31:47 coyote kernel: Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
Oct 12 12:31:47 coyote kernel: nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
Oct 12 12:31:47 coyote kernel: nvidia: module license taints kernel.
Oct 12 12:31:51 coyote kernel: nvidia_uvm: module uses symbols nvUvmInterfaceDisableAccessCntr from proprietary module nvidia, inheriting taint.
-bash.6[~]:

But I'm not aware of any problems relating to this.  Is this somehow related to the absence of "digital signing"?

I do not know what this "digital signing" is or how to do it, but I gather from what Samuel says, I don't need it.

The taint thing has always been there.  It means that the kernel developers are not interested in any issues you have because you've tainted the kernel with an out-of-tree (and proprietary!) driver.

This is completely separate from digital signing which is only required for secure boot.


ok.  Thank-you.

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