Tim: >> If it's an ISP-supplied one, it's a good chance that a hard reset >> will return things to the ISP-configuration rather than manufacturer's >> default. It's a risk, but that's the general way they work here >> (supplied pre-configured to suit their little foibles). Patrick O'Callaghan: > Agreed. I've even been told to do this by my ISP's support guy. YMMV > of course. And something I've flatly refused to do when trying to get my ISP to fix something that's wrong with their system, not mine. *My* DHCP server is not in the router, it's on my computer, where it actually works properly and obeys my commands. Switching it back on in the router will stuff up my network. There'll be address fights, and isolated devices which have fixed IPs. My network IP range is different from the router, and I'm not going to reconfigure 20+ things on the LAN to suit it. I don't use their WiFi SSID and password. The SSID is barely distinguishable from the neighbours (plural). The password is crap, and painful to type. The band steering causes more problems than it's supposed to cure. If there's a dumb way to set up a device, an ISP will do it. ISPs get a hard "NO" from me and have to be very forcefully moved onto the next step on their script. I know how to do networking (the script jockey probably doesn't have a clue). I know how to diagnose whether it's my network or theirs. I will tell them to reset their equipment. I will already have done all the rebooting and resetting on any of my gear before even calling them about a fault. Took months to force them into replacing their faulty fibre modem which had also been emitting a burning smell. In the meantime they wasted hours of my time and theirs, and money in doing all sorts of unrelated things but fix the fault. Initially they wanted me to do on-line text chatting through a web browser. They couldn't understand that /that/ can't be done with a non-functioning internet. I'd also, previously, discovered that you're chatting with a robot, it throws instructions at you based on keywords, in the vain hope that it provides the right answer to some queries. I suspect they've expanded that fake AI even more, considering their recently lay-off of thousands of staff. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.118.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Apr 24 16:01:50 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue