Wolfgang Pfeiffer via users writes:
I can't buy these repeatedly and ad nauseam asserted ideas of x11/xorg vulnerabilities as an excuse for dumping the Xorg/X11 system as a whole.
I don't see much value is discussing the validity of those excuses. It is what it is. They don't want to work on X any more. That's their choice to make. Yes, various excuses are offered to explain the lack of interest in maintaining X, that ring hollow. But I see nothing to be gained from continously harping on it.
Over at Openbsd they have an X based on X.org that is probably tons more secure than the ones on any Linux system ever: https://xenocara.org/ So I don't see any technical problems as to why the Linux devs could not port that X version from Openbsd to Linux systems, if X11/Xorg were really that vulnerable - at least as long as Wayland isn't ready.
No need for a reverse port. If one or more volunteers emerge, step up, and pick up maintainance and effectively fork X.org then at that point the community at large will have a viable option to choose. And then the mob will decide who survives the fork.
This has happened before. X.org itself was forked off Xfree86. gcc was, at one time, forked.
It's the hypocrisy that drove me away from what Linux is today. Not even so much the techical side of the OS: the Linux sponsors or maintainers could tell me that they don't want to spend resources to maintain Xorg additionally to wayland - I'd be fine with it, more or less: there are other options than Linux. But to see the whole Xorg thing getting dumped as long as wayland isn't ready hurts. And it is - to put it very mildly - incomprehensible to me.
It's not going to get dumped by anyone. Anyone can still grab the source of x.org and rebuild it.
If we build a new house, because the old one isn't safe anymore, is leaking or just lousy, we destroy the old one only if and when the new one is ready to live in, i.e. if we have a new place where we can live - a no-brainer, actually. Good luck, guys! best. PS: And besides: there's even work done on wayland over at Openbsd: https://www.openbsd.org/papers/eurobsdcon2023-matthieu-wayland-openbsd.pdf -- Wolfgang -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxFedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of- conduct/List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelinesList Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora- infrastructure/new_issue
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