On Sat, 2024-04-20 at 19:48 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > There are things Wayland won't permit (xeyes), and things that are yet to > implemented. No xeyes? Who doesn't want a pair of googlie eyes goofily staring at their mouse pointer? Actually, I do have a pair of them on this PC, I use them from time-to- time to find the mouse when the pointer has gone darting off in weird directions for inexplicable reasons. And they, and a clock with ticking seconds, are a good indicator that the computer has or hasn't crashed when you it goes unresponsive to your commands. Jokes aside, when something doesn't do what you want (whatever that may be), why would you use it? Promises that the feature you want may appear in a few years mean nothing to me. It's no good to me know, and is akin to the lie told to patients in hospitals that "the doctor will see you shortly," when you know damn well they ain't gonna, because they're elsewhere and nobody has even asked them to come see you. And if they do add all the features you want back in, you're back to using the product they've trashed to take its place (with new sets of security problems). You may as well have worked on the original product and fixed it. Wayland smacks of "I didn't invent it." > The latter may not get much attention if they aren't considered > important by large enterprises. Hmm, I seem to recall Linux as being anti-establishment. And mostly run by actual users not corporate shills. If people are going to turn it into Windows you may as well use Windows. I've never understood that mentality. We picked Linux precisely because it wasn't. > Colleagues in large enterprises have moved to Web-based interfaces > (jupyter, sagemath, and rstudio are examples). I notice banks have always done that kind of thing. The teller's terminal was either simply a text console, and they tabbed between things on the form, or menued over to other forms, which virtually any computer could do. Or, these days, it's a web browser, and one has to hope that it's on a completely private network. Because we know how secure browsers aren't. But I've yet to see an email interface in a web page, as just one example, that's not vastly inferior to a real email client. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.114.2.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Mar 20 15:54:52 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
