Re: how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

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Tim:
>> Let's be clear, we're not talking about annoying changes to how the
>> desktop looks, that can be put up with.  But when you find essential
>> software and/or hardware doesn't work anymore, or doesn't exist
>> anymore, and support libraries are incompatible, that's a deal-breaker.
>>
>> It's a part of the reasons Linux gets minimal support with hardware
>> (printers, graphics cards, scanners, whatever).  Those manufacturers
>> don't want to be dealing with ever-changing infrastructure where
>> someone else is making all these changes.  And there's every chance
>> that by the time they've developed their gadget and software for it, a
>> Linux distro has changed OSs twice.


Samuel Sieb:
> The only reason this is a problem for some manufacturers is because they 
> want to keep it proprietary.  Printers and scanners (and any other 
> hardware) that use open standards or provide open-source drivers work 
> great with Linux.  Compare the difference between NVidia and AMD or 
> Intel.  How often do you see people having issues with AMD or Intel 
> graphics compared to the never-ending issues with NVidia drivers?

I don't agree.  It's a PART of the reason, sure.  But not the only
reason.  When you're developing anything computing or electronics,
there's often years between conception of the idea and (allegedly)
finished product.

That's hard to do when you're trying to fit into someone else's product
that keeps changing.  You have to learn how it works before you can
develop for it, but then *it* changes and you have to start again. 
Certainly, open standards help, but many of them don't exist when you
start, and others come into being in the middle.

In both electronics and computing you have developers who want things
done their way, and rival techniques vie for pole position.  Linux
seems very bad at continually re-inventing the wheel.  How many
different sound systems have we had over the years?

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