On Sat, 2022-05-14 at 07:42 -0600, James Szinger wrote: > Try markdown if LaTeX is too complicated. Markdown is a simple, > text-based markup language that can be automatically converted to > other formats, including HTML, LaTeX, PDF, and MS Word. I may have another look at these. I don't particularly have a need, so that does leave time for experimentation. But I've found that converting document formats has always produced garbage. One does something the other does not, so it fakes it by shoehorning content into things where it doesn't belong (the wrong elements), or masses of metadata getting shovelled in. e.g. what was simply <ol> <li>something</li> <li>something</li> </ol> Gets infiltrated with junk like this: <ol class="junk342"> <li class="junk343">something</li> <li class="junk343">something</li> </ol> The classes weren't necessary, the characters in the classes mean nothing. I would have done no specific styling of elements. I'd have styled any ol inside the header one way, any ol inside the main another way, any ol inside the nav another way, etc. i.e. A simple set of selective CSS rules, not explicit styling except for a few cases, where the class names would actually make sense to me (e.g. "sitebanner"). That tag soup eliminates the prime feature of HTML with CSS that I can simply restyle the website by adjusting the stylesheet (in this case, I can't *simply* adjust the stylesheet, I have to extensively study all the HTML). I even see that class crap shovelled in when I haven't done any styling, I'd just been typing completely plain HTML. Email clients' HTML generators have to be the absolute worst, even worse than wordprocessors for creating that junk. > I don’t grok word processors. Plain text is just as good for simple > documents and WYSIWYG interferes with complicated formatting. Many > of the Word files I get from my colleagues are a mess. I can handle word processors fine, but I don't like fixing other people's documentation. There's a font over here, and another over there, there's no reason for either of them. Correcting one spelling error repaginates several pages, argh! None of them can use punctuation correctly, and they all use them like an electric typewriter, trying to jam things into place with carriage returns and blank lines. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.62.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Apr 5 16:57:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure