Tim: >> In my opinion scaling is a bad hack to avoid properly sizing a GUI >> to the current screen resolution and dimensions, and produced >> no end of rendering side effects when I messed with it in the past. Anil Felipe Duggirala: > I don't know what you mean by "end of rendering". "no end of rendering side effects" meaning endless problems. Some things would scale, others would not (bits of the GUI, browsers have their own independent rendering engines, word processors, too). If I'm preparing a document, and want to see it in 1:1 screen rendering so I can see how it'll print. (There are display options in word processors for 1:1, full width, full height, and other magnifications.) I want an A4 page to display at real A4 size on the screen (if I hold a piece of paper next to it, it ought to be nearly identical). If I want to draw a 4 cm by 8 cm rectangle, I want it to appear in those sizes. If I use 12 point text, it actually has to be 12 point text, not something unpredictable. Likewise, if I want to use 20 pixel text to match alongside a 200 by 300 pixel image, I want them both to be using the same pixel size. Centimeters, pixels and points are absolute sizes, *other* sizing schemes are to be used when you want to use relative sizing. Likewise when I'm printing something. I've I've measured something I'm going to print for, and want to produce a 12 by 10 cm box, with so-many lines of 14 point text, I want to edit and print it with those real dimensions. Not play random magnification print, adjust, and retry, games. I've always found that scaling fouled all of that up. It seems no programmer gets that. They probably think 4 inches is huge. In my opinion, when you set screen font sizes (e.g. the body text, the window titles, etc), you should be able to set the size you actually want. And the GUIs should appropriately resize to fit. It should work that simply. The clicky icons ought to be a similar size to your screen font, etc. Having a separate expansion factor to aid people who want large or small icons is a good thing, too. But base the GUI relative to the size of the text you're reading. They've simply gone about it the *wrong* way, in how they've changed the old style of GUI to suit newer tiny, big, and high-resolution screens. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.62.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Apr 5 16:57:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
