Did you fully pull power and/or turn off power at the power supply prior to installing the sata drive? Ie was the sata drive install the first time the machine was actually off and not just quickly rebooted/reset? If that was the first full power off it would be likely that the drive was in some sort of internal firmware loop and until power was fully removed it never actually was rebooted and/or reset.. I had a spinning sata disk that I was forcing badblocks in an attempt to clean it up to be usable, and 1 out of 50 times or so when it was handling the bad blocks it would stop responding, and a simple reboot never fixed it, but a turn off power for a few seconds fixed it every time. On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 6:42 AM Neal Becker <ndbecker2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Well the fact that the failed ssd is working again tells me it wasn't zapped by static or power transients. The comment about taking a long time for the ssd to reorganize itself is interesting, but here it failed 1 day, and I went to fix it the next day, where it still was not detected by F35 live usb stick. Came back to life after I installed the sata drive. > > The only thing I can think of is a motherboard component that fails when warm, came back to life after it cooled while I installed the sata? But since the same failure was seen with SSD plugged into m.2 socket on motherboard, and different SSD plugged into m.2 socket on pcie->m.2 adapter; I don't think there is any common component? Don't know enough about these motherboard architecture to say for sure. Must be something in common though to explain these symptoms. > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 8:20 PM Tim via users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Wed, 2022-02-23 at 10:41 -0400, George N. White III wrote: >> > I used to add surge protection to power bars. We had a tree fall on >> > the cable coax that they had installed without a proper anchor, just >> > a zip tie to the mast for the AC power. The mast was pulled off the >> > house, which meant the neutral line got disconnected first, and >> > lightbulbs went off like flash bulbs. My Victor 9000 PC with the >> > home-made surge protection survived, but we lost the doorbell >> > transformer and a radio (and the thyristers in the surge protector). >> >> I've always been a bit wary of ones in power boards (the multi-socket >> adaptors on short leads. Ideally surge protection should be at the >> distribution box (to protect the whole house from surges from the >> street). You really want the house to disconnect from power under >> dangerous conditions, not just a board with potentially (now) hazardous >> wiring still energised between it and the wall. >> >> If you pull apart power boards, you often notice how thin the wiring >> is, and the metal strips used to form the sockets. You've got a good >> chance at weakening or blowing the board instead of the main fuse. Even >> under good wiring circumstances the fuses and breakers may not be quick >> enough to break the circuit. >> >> Some of the boards use inappropriate over-voltage clamping that's >> always being driven warm by triggering too close to the normal mains >> voltage (possibly this is manufacturers of 110 volt equipment selling >> their products into 240 volt markets). I've come across some that are >> always too warm for my liking, and wouldn't like them being buried and >> out of sight. I've seen them discoloured and deformed plastic. >> >> People have a habit of daisy chaining power boards. EMI filters and >> surge protection at the end of the line puts heavier workload on ones >> nearer to the socket, and all the joins between. Advice was that if >> you have to have more outlets than available on one board, the first >> one plugged into the wall should be the one with filters and >> protection, then plug other plain unprotected boards directly into it, >> rather than string a series of boards through each other. 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