George N. White III writes:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 23:18, Sam Varshavchik <<URL:mailto:mrsam@courier- mta.com>mrsam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:George N. White III writes: > On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 18:48, Sam Varshavchik <<URL:mailto:<URL:mailto:mrsam@courier->mrsam@courier- > <URL:http://mta.com>mta.com><URL:mailto:mrsam@courier- mta.com>mrsam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Tim via users writes: > > > Sam Varshavchik: > > > Sadly, I expect that Fedora at some point will become exclusively > > > Gnome and KDE, because only these stacks will support Wayland, in > > > order to ditch X, and also target the same userbase. This won't > > > happen anytime soon, but it will happen. > > > > I'm still not convinced Wayland's a great idea. The old X had a ton of > > features that people wanted, but Wayland doesn't. *If* they > > reimplement them, how's Wayland going to be different from X? If they > > don't reimplement them, why would those people want to use it? > > I couldn't agree more. Wayland is a solution in search of problems. > > > > Read > <URL:<URL:https://www.kernel.org/doc/ols/2004/ols2004v1- >https://www.kernel.org/doc/ols/2004/ols2004v1- > pages-227-238.pdf><URL:https://www.kernel.org/doc/ols/2004/ols2004v1- >https://www.kernel.org/doc/ols/2004/ols2004v1- > pages-227-238.pdf > > > This paper describes the problems Wayland is trying to solve. I skimmed through it. I didn't read anything that precludes an implementation as an X protocol revision. Ditch last century's baggage (colormaps, fonts); use RENDER exclusively; replace the archaic COMPOUND_TEXT with UTF-8; etc… The people who do the work get to choose how they do it. From my perspective, the biggest issue with Wayland has lack of support from Nvidia, which is really not the responsibility of Wayland developers.
Oh, yeah. That's going to do that. Without a buy-in from Nvidia, Wayland's going nowhere.
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