Tim, >> Yeah, right. Slowly opening menus, slowly spinning desktop cubes, >> hover and wait before continuing, splash screens and other >> animations that delay me doing something "make it work better"? Sam Varshavchik: > I agree. Having said that: if Gnome wants to target the power user, > with the latest high-end video hardware, the kind who follows the > latest UI trends, then I see nothing wrong with that, with Gnome > becoming a boutique, specialty UI that targets a specific userbase. It was possible to add those features without making the underlying system sluggish, it was done before. Now, you have a behemoth that you can turn off the whizzy bits, but still uses too much grunt to show the desktop in a basic manner. > Sadly, I expect that Fedora at some point will become exclusively > Gnome and KDE, because only these stacks will support Wayland, in > order to ditch X, and also target the same userbase. This won't > happen anytime soon, but it will happen. I'm still not convinced Wayland's a great idea. The old X had a ton of features that people wanted, but Wayland doesn't. *If* they reimplement them, how's Wayland going to be different from X? If they don't reimplement them, why would those people want to use it? -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.49.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 30 15:51:32 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure