Tim: >> I find this just crazy. Why should just the desktop interface >> require a beefy graphics card? I use Mate because of that >> silliness. Samuel Sieb: > It doesn't need to be beefy. Pretty much any video card made in the > last 10 years should work. Since the capability is there, why not > use it to make the desktop work better? Yeah, right. Slowly opening menus, slowly spinning desktop cubes, hover and wait before continuing, splash screens and other animations that delay me doing something "make it work better"? I remember when using computers on just a few megahertz, now that we're using gigahertz computers the computers should be a thousand times faster to use, but they're not. And, sure, I can turn off the decorative crap. But it's still the using the same bloated behemoth underneath. > I don't understand why the few of you in this thread feel the need > to exaggerate so badly in order to put down Gnome. Oh, bullcrap. We're not exaggerating. We've used the various desktops, we've seen the silliness and ignored the Emperors New Clothes sales pitch. The excessive over-the-top Gnome defending against evidence to the contrary, and putting down of anybody who criticises it, really pisses me off. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.49.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 30 15:51:32 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure