Re: Wayland and Xfce

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On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 18:48, Sam Varshavchik <mrsam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Tim via users writes:

> Sam Varshavchik:
> > Sadly, I expect that Fedora at some point will become exclusively
> > Gnome and KDE, because only these stacks will support Wayland, in
> > order to ditch X, and also target the same userbase. This won't
> > happen anytime soon, but it will happen.
>
> I'm still not convinced Wayland's a great idea.  The old X had a ton of
> features that people wanted, but Wayland doesn't.  *If* they
> reimplement them, how's Wayland going to be different from X?  If they
> don't reimplement them, why would those people want to use it?

I couldn't agree more. Wayland is a solution in search of problems.

Read
https://www.kernel.org/doc/ols/2004/ols2004v1-pages-227-238.pdf

This paper describes the problems Wayland is trying to solve.
 
The 
stated problems with X, that were the purported drivers for Wayland -- I 
just can't find those problems, myself.

Other people can.   Just because X works for you doesn't mean Wayland
doesn't make linux suitable for use cases where X fails.
 

But it's painfully obvious that every effort is being made to ditch X in 
favor of the Next Greatest Thing. It's a path well trodden by Gnome 3 and 
systemd. I'm just a realist here, and I see the handwriting on the wall.

Real money is being spent to develop Wayland because the need for
better linux graphics justifies the effort.
 

The only thing that will keep X in business is a popular widget set or a 
desktop that does not get ported to Wayland. I'm keeping my fingers crossed 
that xfce will be enough to keep X around. Maybe not in Fedora, but in other 
distributions.

Most likely scenario is a new lightweight DE using Wayland, maybe stealing
code from xfce or maybe completely written from scratch.

--
George N. White III

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