On 9 Sep 2021 at 22:51, Samuel Sieb wrote: Subject: Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> From: Samuel Sieb <samuel@xxxxxxxx> Date sent: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 22:51:43 -0700 Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > On 9/9/21 10:21 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > > On 9 Sep 2021 at 19:16, Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> Is there a reason you can't use the Fedora kernel? That would give you > >> full secure boot support. What different options are you using for your > >> kernel? > > I have done a test. > > I can boot from the Fedora 34 live cd I have setup in > > Virtual box. 2G boot file. > > I've found that there are 23 packages that are not > > included in the live cd setup, so have to install them. > > [snip] > > > So, going from a simple boot with a 10M kernel and 30M > > filesystem running in ram versus booting to a 2G > > filesystem and having to add stuff requiring the internet. > > I don't think you're getting my point and aren't actually answering my > questions. > > What is special about the kernel you're compiling that the Fedora kernel > won't work? Don't say anything about EFI. Not sure? The Fedora Kernels are built to use Systemd and Selinux, so not sure how they would interact with the g4l's ramdisk.lzma file. With the G4L kernel, it includes almost all available disk and nic devices the kernel offers since it is meant to boot and support whatever the hardware has, and haven't had issues from users about not supporting things very often, and have resolved the few issues. The g4l ramdisk.lzma has no gnome or other desktop environment. Is just a text based system using dialog interface.. Guess I could setup a option in 40_custom, that used the rescue kernel, since it would be the only one that would come close to supporting more hardware. Once change a machine from an old IDE hard disk to a new SATA hard disk. Imaged the IDE to the SATA and everything was identical, but it would not boot from the SATA drive.. Turned out the default kernel didn't include the SATA support, since the machine didn't have an SATA drive at the time. Don't know if there was a resue kernel on disk at time, but ended up booting back from the old IDE drive, and went thru a complex process to build a new initrd that include the SATA controller. Was then able to copy it to the SATA disk, and it booted just fine. I could boot from the Fedora CD, and could see the SATA drive, since it had all the different hard disk support, but the current one did not. As an example this notebooks current rescue initramfs is over twice the since the current booting initramfs. 106180650 May 7 23:45 initramfs-0-rescue-189711f94e78436d9618b891a8fce70e .img 48724393 Sep 9 17:42 initramfs-5.13.14-100.fc33.x86_64.img The g4l current ramdisk.lzma 28244926 Sep 9 17:35 ramdisk.lzma Comparing kernel files. 10596624 May 7 23:44 vmlinuz-0-rescue-189711f94e78436d9618b891a8fce70e 10865648 Aug 13 07:42 vmlinuz-5.13.10-100.fc33.x86_64 G4l kernel file 9818816 Sep 9 17:35 bz5x13.15 > > You have an initramfs already. Why can't you keep that, but replace the > kernel modules with the ones from Fedora? The G4L has all the modules built into the kernel, versus have them as loadable one. The CD version has multiple kernels include in case default one doesn't work with hardware, hopefully one of the others will. Since the kernels contain all the modules built in, doesn't require created different directories for each kernel. Current CD version has the following kernel options. LABEL bz5x4.144 MENU LABEL ^A: bz5x4.144 x86 09-03-2021 TEXT HELP Kernel 5x4.144 from Kernel.org ENDTEXT LINUX bz5x4.144 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.lzma root=/dev/ram0 LABEL bz5x10.63 MENU LABEL ^B: bz5x10.63 x86 09-08-2021 TEXT HELP Kernel 5x10.63 from Kernel.org ENDTEXT LINUX bz5x10.63 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.lzma root=/dev/ram0 LABEL bz5x12.19 MENU LABEL ^C: bz5x12.19 x86 07-20-2021 TEXT HELP Kernel 5x12.19 from Kernel.org ENDTEXT LINUX bz5x12.19 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.lzma root=/dev/ram0 LABEL bz5x13.15 MENU LABEL ^D: bz5x13.15 x86 09-08-2021 MENU DEFAULT TEXT HELP Kernel 5x13.15 from Kernel.org ENDTEXT LINUX bz5x13.15 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.lzma root=/dev/ram0 LABEL Failsafe MENU LABEL ^J: Failsafe Menu TEXT HELP Switch between menu with/without failsafe options ENDTEXT CONFIG failsafe.cfg APPEND initrd=ramdisk.lzma root=/dev/ram0 LABEL bz5x14.1 MENU LABEL ^K: bz5x14.1 x86 09-08-2021 TEXT HELP Kernel 5x14.1 from Kernel.org ENDTEXT LINUX bz5x14.1 APPEND initrd=ramdisk.lzma root=/dev/ram0 The flash if created by copying the iso to flash would have all these kernels. If the g4l-lite file is used to create a flash using grub4dos it only has the default kernel as an option, and is thus much smaller. Adding it directly as a boot option on the regular grub2 just requires putting the bzxxx kernel file and the ramdisk.lzma file in the boot directory. Then have the following lines in 40_custom menuentry G4L { linux /bz5x13.15 root=/dev/ram0 telnetd=yes initrd /ramdisk.lzma } and using grub2-mkconfig command. > > This would get you a fully functional EFI boot that would even work with > secure boot enabled. > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure