On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 19:21 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/07/2021 18:56, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 14:34 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > Patrick writes: > > > > > > > I think much depends on what the TPM is used for. Certainly > > > if the > > > > user takes care not to subvert the intention, it can > > > reasonably be > > > > used to ensure that only trusted software is run. > > > > > > "Pragmatically speaking ..." ;-) Seriously, I think TPM mostly > > > makes > > > sense with VMs. People who write programs are generally going to > > > be > > > very unhappy with the amount of kissing up to the TPM they have > > > to > > > do. > > > Like, on Mac every time LLVM releases a new version of the > > > debugger I > > > have to go through the self-signing dance. So far I have been > > > satisfied with the results every time (there really are new > > > features > > > or performance improvements), but it's infrequent enough that I > > > have > > > no memory of the procedure, let alone muscle memory. > > Indeed. I have no particular interest in TPM as such. My original > > question was aimed at anticipating possible issues with VMs and > > Windows > > 11 if I ever get round to installing it, but that seems to be > > resolved. > > > > Yes, I installed Windows 11 in a VM just fine with an emulated TPM. I > don't actually use > Windows all that much. But, for what I use it Windows 11 does seem > to do it better. > I only use it mainly for the WebATM of the Taiwan Post Office Bank. > In Windows 10 I had to get the > sequence just right for plugging in the USB smart card reader and > inserting my bank > card. > > Still sucks that the Post Office doesn't support Linux. :-( It's annoying when banks decide to "improve" security by requiring their customers to use a specific platform rather than a general standard. All banks here use smartcards but the personal terminal is just an offline card reader with a display. oic _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure