Re: Windows 11 VMs

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On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 19:21 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/07/2021 18:56, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 14:34 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> > > Patrick writes:
> > > 
> > >   > I think much depends on what the TPM is used for. Certainly
> > > if the
> > >   > user takes care not to subvert the intention, it can
> > > reasonably be
> > >   > used to ensure that only trusted software is run.
> > > 
> > > "Pragmatically speaking ..." ;-)  Seriously, I think TPM mostly
> > > makes
> > > sense with VMs.  People who write programs are generally going to
> > > be
> > > very unhappy with the amount of kissing up to the TPM they have
> > > to
> > > do.
> > > Like, on Mac every time LLVM releases a new version of the
> > > debugger I
> > > have to go through the self-signing dance.  So far I have been
> > > satisfied with the results every time (there really are new
> > > features
> > > or performance improvements), but it's infrequent enough that I
> > > have
> > > no memory of the procedure, let alone muscle memory.
> > Indeed. I have no particular interest in TPM as such. My original
> > question was aimed at anticipating possible issues with VMs and
> > Windows
> > 11 if I ever get round to installing it, but that seems to be
> > resolved.
> > 
> 
> Yes, I installed Windows 11 in a VM just fine with an emulated TPM. I
> don't actually use
> Windows all that much.  But, for what I use it Windows 11 does seem
> to do it better.
> I only use it mainly for the WebATM of the Taiwan Post Office Bank.
> In Windows 10 I had to get the
> sequence just right for plugging in the USB smart card reader and
> inserting my bank
> card.
> 
> Still sucks that the Post Office doesn't support Linux.  :-(

It's annoying when banks decide to "improve" security by requiring
their customers to use a specific platform rather than a general
standard. All banks here use smartcards but the personal terminal is
just an offline card reader with a display.

oic 
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