On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 10:01, lejeczek via users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > if you too jumped on that bandwagon of (fake) Lenovo euphoria towards support, in > generic terms, for Linux by the company - which is BAD across the board. That's not what I've experienced: I've been working with Lenovo for about 2 years now, with ThinkStation, ThinkCenter and ThinkPad teams (including sub-teams of ME, BIOS, etc), and about a dozen ODMs and IHVs with my firmware work on the LVFS and fwupd. Although Lenovo had some catching up to do, they now ship about as much firmware on the LVFS (in terms of absolute downloads, and also in terms of models supported) as Dell. In the last 18 months I've seen a Lenovo Linux team grow from almost nothing to having almost daily contact with a Senior Linux Developer at Lenovo. They are increasing the number of models (and type of hardware) with firmware on the LVFS and I'll have some more announcements about all that when it's all public. As I understand it, Lenovo only formally "supports Fedora" on models actually sold with Fedora preinstalled (which is fair enough in my opinion). At least unofficially I know there are a *huge* number of other models that are being tested with Fedora and RHEL, and with firmware updates available on the LVFS. I've been given access to their IHVs and ODMs supplying devices and silicon to them, and the support of Linux by Lenovo has contributed a huge amount to the success of the LVFS. I think calling Lenovo a "joke" considering how much progress they've made in the last 18 months is a huge mischaracterization. I buy Lenovo and I've been Linux-exclusive for about the last 15 years. Richard. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure