Re: Fedora 30 EOL

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I don't believe the kernel.org developers work out of the fedora
bugzilla (or any distro's bugzilla), so no one who knows anything is
likely to find and/or see the bug.

To get a kernel developer you would need to at least post a summary to
the kernel subsystem list if you know which subsystem or the main
kernel if you don't.

And the kernel.org guys do not care about any testing done on a fedora
delivered kernel as they don't know what code is in it, so you would
need to install a kernel.org kernel and bot from it and verify you
have the issue on the newest released one.


On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 9:33 AM Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 5:30 PM Michael Schwendt <mschwendt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 28 May 2020 18:08:48 +0930, Tim via users wrote:
> >
> > > Perhaps there should be an automated culling of participants.  If you
> > > step up the plate to say you'll maintain a package, but don't, *you*
> > > get dumped from bugzilla.
> >
> > Please let's not create a thread of doom.
> >
> > You can't seriously suggest blocking kernel maintainers from bugzilla just
> > because they don't have the manpower to take a look at every ticket and
> > perform meaningful, helpful triaging. Some key components are literally
> > flooded with bug reports. In order to deal with the number of tickets,
> > using scripts is an obvious thing to do. Yet it isn't done in a proper and
> > OS user-friendly way.
>
> I agree, this is exactly the case (I'm the OP, and the person who
> filed the BZ referenced earlier).  There should be clear guidance how
> a motivated user can follow through, do the relevant triaging, and
> maybe even test an upstream kernel,  In fact if you read the BZ,
> you'll see that I tried vanilla RC kernels from Thorsten's repo and
> reported back to the BZ.
>
> What baffles me most, is the nature of the bug.  It is the text book
> case of a high priority bug, new (budget) hardware, which is becoming
> common place very fast, where Fedora isn't bootable, add to that it is
> a regression bug. How does a bug with these characteristics not come
> within the peripheral vision of the maintainers, specially when the
> reporter is eager to do all kinds of troubleshooting and testing!?
> Clearly something is wrong with the automation, the question is. how
> should that be fixed?
>
> --
> Suvayu
>
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