On Wed, 27 May 2020 15:42:39 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 3:23 PM Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > > The fundamental problem here is that it has taken a very long time for > > somebody to respond to the bug reporter. There has been no guidance and > > no hint whether anyone "somewhere" would be interested in looking into > > this issue. > > > Exactly. And growing the contributor community is how we can solve that problem. > How? It seems to be you haven't even taken a brief look at the ticket at all. The bug reporter has contributed more than only dumping a kernel backtrace into bugzilla. The willingness to provide details or to test potential fixes has been demonstrated. And yet nobody has shown any willingness to comment on the actual problem or to point at external place that might be a suitable place where to discuss it and where interested kernel developers could give some guidance on how to proceed. There have always been components with a large number of bugzilla tickets without a response, but Fedora has turned it into a "man versus machine" competition. Which is unfortunate. First of all, those automated responses come _much_ too late. After months, most users have lost patience and have given up. And for the patient users, the second time somebody gets an automated response that only threatens with closing a ticket _again_, it will be a "WTF?" moment and raise motivation to look for a different OS. Automation is not a bad thing, but there ought to be a clear message that tells people about the expectations to get a response on the way to a potential fix or _how_ they could contribute. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx