On Sat, 2019-02-02 at 21:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2/2/19 8:22 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Last ditch left-field idea: I have a (commercial) VPN service which is > > not normally turned on but does have a systemd daemon running. I turned > > it off and everything started working. > > > > I am now looking at 3 Fedora guests and a Windows guest all connected > > and even able to ping each other. > > > > I think the VPN daemon was messing with the firewall. I'll have to see > > what to do about that but for now, it looks like this was the culprit > > all along. Who knew? > > > > Apologies for wasting everyone's time, but maybe there's a lesson here > > somewhere ... > > Well, it would be good to.... > > Stop firewalld, dump the IPTables, start the VPN daemon, wait a bit, and dump the IPTables > again. I didn't stop firewalld, but iptables with and without the VPN show no difference. Hypothesis: the problem occurs when the guests start *after* the VPN daemon is running (it comes up at boot time), but if I start the guests first then it works. I'll try and get round to testing this when I have time. > Also, it would be helpful to actually name the commercial VPN which may warn others about > the pitfall. ExpressVPN. > But, it is good to know it is fixed. And yes, the lesson is "list things you've installed > that aren't part of the normal distribution". Indeed, but for most people that would be a long list. > The other thing that I'd question would be: If you'd made no changes why then did the > problem arise? Did a change in some Fedora component become "incompatible" with the VPN > daemon? Ay, there's the rub. Both libvirt-libs and the ExpressVPN rpm date from last October. poc _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx