Rick, I have used Cent OS and Scientific Linux for more years than I can remember. I do know how it works. Too well. If you don't pay for it, they don't fix it. This is the way their open source model works. Same with Code Weavers and Wine. (I don't use Wine. I use Wine Staging, which comes with Fedora. Tons bugs fixed.) Yes, Osmo was the problem. I made that very clear. Osmo jumped on the problem and fixed it. But could do nothing for me as RHEL and Clones uses out dated, bug riddled version of software that Osmo need to run properly. Yes Fedora has its issues. In my experience 1/50'th of RHEL. And the turn around time for Fedora to fix bugs is a few months. RHEL's turn around time is 7 years (no fooling!) to NEVER. I have posted a good 50 bugs over the years. They don't care. Fedora, unlike RHEL and friends, works on their bugs and fixs them. RHEL usually can not, even if they want to, which they usually do not. KVM is sweet running on Fedora, but a miserable bug riddled dog on RHEL and friends, as even Red Hat is too out of date to run their current versions. My experience is that Fedora has 1/50 the issues that RHEL does. If yo do not keep after your bugs, RHEL is what happens to you. I almost went INSANE !!! Now how to use RHEL and Clones. 1) find a piece of old software that will never need an update. New software won run on it. 2) find a software vendor that SPECIFICALLY develops for RHEL 3) buy an old motherboard, as new ones are not supported. Don't expect new motherboard performance. 4) set and forget. (You can do this with any OS by turning off the updates.) Basically, you use RHEL as an appliance. Once it is cooked, do expect to season it. If you want Kaisen (constant improvement), Fedora is your man. If you want a set and forget appliance, consider RHEL. Fedora is a shining example of Kaisen. RHEL is a miserable example of what happens when you don't keep after your stuff. Both have their uses. By the way, my new motherboard, Supermicro X11SAE-M won't boot REHL and clones properly. And it only cost me over 2000.00 U$D in free warranty work to figure it out. RHEL couldn't give a poop about the bug report. Ya, they told me they did not have access to the hardware. I told them the phone number to call at Supermicro to get all the free hardware they needed (Supermicro supports vendors like Red Hat) and they still wouldn't fix it. (Is okay, Fedora run beautifully on the server.) Funny, but not so much, RHEL and clones works fine off a Live USB on the X11SAE-M, which mean a timing issue. (Yes I documented it out the nose.) If you were to say I was "angry" over the whole issue, "angry" does not even begin to describe it. Yup. I know how the system works. And all I have to say about RHEL and clones is, been there, done that, never want to do it again. I TOOK IT IN THE SHORTS. -T You should have seen the way Fedora fix the bugs in saned for me. Sane is now a thing of beauty. Only took a couple of months. Too bad if you want to use a scanner in RHEL. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/MJXTMNBOM6ZBTDAOBMIQR5ULSSRRKTWK/
