On 05/22/2018 09:33 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 23:00 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >>>> So, those processes may potentially keep copies of libraries that have been updated >>>> and (guessing) clashes happen with new processes with new libraries. >>> Yes, I'm aware of that. However 'tracer' supposed to detect this, >>> either when called from the Shell or via the dnf plug-in. That's why >>> it's telling me to restart the session. >> >> I seriously doubt that tracer will be able to detect that some processes may survive >> a log-outt/log-in event. > > Naturally not, but it should (and AFAIK does) detect libraries being > updated and recommend that processes using them be restarted. > >> Do you run tracer again after logging in again? > > I sometimes run it from a root console while the user session is logged > out, and make sure nothing out of date is still hanging around. This > doesn't appear to correlate with the problem, but I haven't been > systematic enough about it to be sure. > >>>> Therefore, I don't logout/login after updates. If anything, I reboot. In my case a >>>> reboot takes about 12 seconds so I'm not bothered by it. >>> It's fast here too, but I usually have a VM running that I may not want >>> to forcibly reboot. >>> >> There is always something, isn't there? > > Yes, Murphy had something to say about that ... And I just had lightdm screw up royally. First, upon login I got an XFCE polkit error popup, which is singularly useless in telling you anything you can troubleshoot with. Then, I had no access to the sound hardware on my machine, nor could I enable/disable wireless, play with firewall settings or anything else, as polkit thought I didn't have permissions to do anything, nor did it ever pop up an authentication dialog. I wiped my xfce settings, reinstalled lightdm, xfce4-polkit and anything else I could think of to no avail. I finally just punted, disabled lightdm and enabled lxdm and everything started working again. Very, VERY frustrating. Grrrrr! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Admitting you have a problem is the first step toward getting - - medicated for it. -- Jim Evarts (http://www.TopFive.com) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/XHQ2PXQYZ2GBWMRTSWAQJ7HYD4KA5M6N/
