On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 15:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/21/18 23:09, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2018-05-21 at 10:06 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > > > There are > > > programs that just don't terminate every time when I log out. Various > > > system/desktop daemons, sometimes web browsers. > > > > Possibly unrelated, but I sometimes - not always - find that after > > updating (using dnf with the tracer plugin) I'm advised to restart my > > session, then on logging out and in I'm suddenly forced out again after > > a short time, usually less than a minute. > > FWIW, if you investigate a little I think you'd find that for every user that logs-in > for a GUI session there will be about 9+ processes that are left running and remain > running. It seems these processes are then reused on subsequent logins by the same > uid. I suppose this may be done to speed-up subsequent logins. > > So, those processes may potentially keep copies of libraries that have been updated > and (guessing) clashes happen with new processes with new libraries. Yes, I'm aware of that. However 'tracer' supposed to detect this, either when called from the Shell or via the dnf plug-in. That's why it's telling me to restart the session. > Therefore, I don't logout/login after updates. If anything, I reboot. In my case a > reboot takes about 12 seconds so I'm not bothered by it. It's fast here too, but I usually have a VM running that I may not want to forcibly reboot. poc _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/MUNYHWLBAZRIPUZGJXSRC4OSJGC257ZM/