Re: network-online.target appears to be very much broken

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Allegedly, on or about 5 November 2017, Sam Varshavchik sent:
> Now, as I see it, this boils down to a one word, simple question:
> 
> Why?
> 
> Do we really expect that one should actually do that?
> 
> Using privoxy as an illustrative example: is it really so
> unreasonable to expect that installing a package called "privoxy",
> and if this "privoxy" package requires all IP addresses to be up,
> before it runs, then installing this package makes sure that this
> actually happens, that it starts up after all network interfaces are
> up?

I tend to agree.  But rather than thinking that a packet that requires
a running network ought to start another waiting service to get it to
wait for the right moment.  Ought to depend on *that* waiting service,
rather than listen to the wrong service.

There's any number of services on Fedora that should be waiting for a
network is operational status, rather than a network is starting
status.  They should depend on a service that actually provides that
information, not rely on something else to delay the wrong thing that
they're listening to.

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