Allegedly, on or about 5 November 2017, Sam Varshavchik sent: > Now, as I see it, this boils down to a one word, simple question: > > Why? > > Do we really expect that one should actually do that? > > Using privoxy as an illustrative example: is it really so > unreasonable to expect that installing a package called "privoxy", > and if this "privoxy" package requires all IP addresses to be up, > before it runs, then installing this package makes sure that this > actually happens, that it starts up after all network interfaces are > up? I tend to agree. But rather than thinking that a packet that requires a running network ought to start another waiting service to get it to wait for the right moment. Ought to depend on *that* waiting service, rather than listen to the wrong service. There's any number of services on Fedora that should be waiting for a network is operational status, rather than a network is starting status. They should depend on a service that actually provides that information, not rely on something else to delay the wrong thing that they're listening to. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 4.13.9-200.fc26.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Oct 23 13:52:45 UTC 2017 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. A positive attitude is worth the effort if it annoys enough people. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx