Re: Possible to "dnf upgrade" in a Fedora Gnome without the need to reboot?

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On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 11:00 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> [ ... ]
> Note also that in the event of security problems, you may still have
> stuff running with the old versions in memory. Run `sudo dnf
> needs-restarting` to see what needs to restart; often a reboot is just
> _easier_.

Easier, yes, and probably simply the only option in instances where
services needing a restart simply cannot be restarted after an upgrade,
except by a full reboot.

That's what just happened here, an hour ago:

I did an upgrade on a tmux session, on a tty - quite a few packages got
upgraded, glibc among them. After the upgrade, and after restarting gdm,
(something like  systemctl restart gdm, IIRC), after re-logged in to
Gnome still I got this from
dnf needs-restarting:

=================================
1 : /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --system --deserialize 17 
3720 : /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd 
3916 : /sbin/auditd 
3946 : /usr/libexec/accounts-daemon 
3957 : /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-logind 
3958 : /usr/sbin/abrtd -d -s 
3972 : /usr/sbin/gssproxy -D 
3999 : /usr/bin/python3 -Es /usr/sbin/firewalld --nofork --nopid 
4010 : /usr/lib/polkit-1/polkitd --no-debug 
4030 : /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon 
4047 : /usr/sbin/libvirtd 
4227 : /usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd 
4295 : /usr/sbin/dnsmasq --conf-file=/var/lib/libvirt/dnsmasq/default.conf --leasefile-ro --dhcp-script=/usr/libexec/libvirt_leaseshelper 
4375 : /usr/bin/abrt-dump-journal-xorg -fxtD 
4376 : /usr/bin/abrt-dump-journal-oops -fxtD 
4377 : /usr/bin/abrt-dump-journal-core -D -T -f -e 
4411 : /usr/libexec/upowerd 
4447 : /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog 
4495 : /usr/libexec/packagekitd 
4578 : /usr/libexec/colord 
5084 : /usr/libexec/udisks2/udisksd 
5436 : /usr/sbin/cupsd -l 
5650 : /usr/libexec/fwupd/fwupd 
7493 : /sbin/agetty --noclear tty3 linux 
18667 : /usr/sbin/crond -n 
19027 : /usr/bin/python3 -Es /usr/sbin/setroubleshootd -f  
27522 : /sbin/agetty --noclear tty5 linux 
27538 : /sbin/agetty --noclear tty6 linux 
==================================================

Please note systemd-udevd, 3720, on top of the list: seems to be the
kernel device manager, so I think it was good reason for a reboot,
because how do you restart a "static" service like systemd-udevd?

After a full reboot then, 'dnf needs-restarting' now yields nothing.

I can't say I'm happy with this situation, but at least - I think - I
now know how to handle it.

Thanks a lot to everyone in this thread: you definitely helped a lot!

Best Regards
Wolfgang
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