Re: anaconda problem

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On 03/22/2017 01:58 AM, François Patte wrote:
> Le 22/03/2017 04:54, Ed Greshko a écrit :
>> On 03/22/17 01:17, François Patte wrote:
>>> I read the installation guide....
>>>
>>> On this page:
>>>
>>> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Installation_Guide/Create_Software_RAID-x86.html
>>>
>>> no mention on how to create  an lvm once your raid is created.
>>>
>>> (funny: the example given is /usr, maybe an overdose of Jack Daniel's!)
>>
>> Of course you are using an *old* version of documentation.  F18 was long
>> before F25 where we are now.
>>
>> As I already mentioned.  I did the install in a configuration which I
>> thought you wanted to end up with and I did so successfully.  It is
>> irrelevant to refer to obsolete documentation where what you want may
>> not have been possible.
> 
> I use the documentation I can access via the fedora sites and this was
> the installation guide I found.....

Then you didn't look very hard. If you access the URL you gave in
your message and looked higher up in the left pane, you'd see the
documentation for Fedora 25 right there. In fact, here's the URL for
the English version of the manual section relevant to the installation
destination disks including how to set up RAID and LVM:

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/25/html/Installation_Guide/sect-installation-gui-storage-partitioning.html

I'm sorry, but the installation guide has not been translated to
French yet. Translations are always an issue with Fedora, since its
release schedule is roughly every 6 months and they simply don't have
the bodies necessary to keep the translations up-to-date with that kind
of turn over.

Perhaps that's something you can do to contribute to the Fedora
project. I know the Fedora team is always looking for volunteers to do
translations of various kinds.

>> No need to do anything manually.
> 
> I did not say that things are to be done manually (but I think that it
> is easier and quicker to things manually and I regret that this option
> does not exist for the installer), I said that the graphical
> presentation is illogical because the hierarchy is: partition>raid
> devices>lvm as you can see using lsblk:
> 
> NAME              MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE  MOUNTPOINT
> sdb                 8:16   1 931,5G  0 disk
> └─sdb1              8:17   1 700,1G  0 part
>   └─md127           9:127  0   700G  0 raid1
>     ├─fedora-boot 253:1    0     1G  0 lvm   /boot
>     ├─fedora-var  253:4    0    15G  0 lvm   /var
>     ├─fedora-swap 253:2    0     4G  0 lvm   [SWAP]
>     ├─fedora-root 253:0    0    40G  0 lvm   /
>     ├─fedora-opt  253:5    0    40G  0 lvm   /opt
>     └─fedora-home 253:3    0   600G  0 lvm   /home
> sda                 8:0    0 931,5G  0 disk
> └─sda1              8:1    0 700,1G  0 part
>   └─md127           9:127  0   700G  0 raid1
>     ├─fedora-boot 253:1    0     1G  0 lvm   /boot
>     ├─fedora-var  253:4    0    15G  0 lvm   /var
>     ├─fedora-swap 253:2    0     4G  0 lvm   [SWAP]
>     ├─fedora-root 253:0    0    40G  0 lvm   /
>     ├─fedora-opt  253:5    0    40G  0 lvm   /opt
>     └─fedora-home 253:3    0   600G  0 lvm   /home
> 
> So using the installer for partitionning, once you have chosen a mount
> point you can find a dropdown menu where you can choose lvm (default) or
> raid (or btrfs...) and keeping in mind that raid is before lvm in the
> hierarchy, you naturally choose raid and you cannot have lvm after
> that... This is not a logical way!
> 
>>>
>>> 2- Modifier (in French) means that you want to correct something wrong
>>> you have done before not to add some options...
>>
>> Sounds as if you should donate some translations to the anaconda team. 
>> (Wonder if there may be a difference in wording for French and
>> Canadian-French as well as other localized versions.)
>>>
>>> Moreover, as far as I have explored this "modify" feature, I cannot see,
>>> on the anaconda page devoted to partitionning, that a RAID will be
>>> created! I have to cross my fingers that the modification has been taken
>>> into account.
>>
>> I did the install a second time in order to document the steps which
>> absolutely work. 
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/m2csa23  are the screenshots with several important
>> items pointed out.
> 
> Should be in the official documentation....

And it IS there if you look at the _current_ documentation. Fedora 18
is over four years old now and the documents do not reflect how things
are NOW. There have been seven MAJOR upgrades since F18 and a lot of
them have to do with Anaconda and installation in general (support for
additional filesystem types, easier encryption, etc., etc.)
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