On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 05:24:23AM -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote: > see RancherOS > http://rancher.com/rancher-os/ > ``Eliminates need for complex init systems > RancherOS eliminates the need for complex init systems like systemd. > Systemd and Docker don’t work well together as they both attempt to > manage control groups. Using a simple configuration file, > administrators can easily configure system services as Docker > containers.'' > > I am actually surprised and puzzled by this! I thought Fedora was > bleeding edge* and was the pioneer of new technologies* but now > someone else is leading the init* technologies. Yes there was upstart > by ubuntu, there is uslessD, and other non systemd software out there > but these guys they may have a mission* Well, I'd count the "systemd and docker don't work together well" bit with some degree of skepticism. But, on the larger point: Fedora doesn't strive to be bleeding edge. We strive to be the first to offer the newest and best of _functional_ open source software. And that's a hard balance to get right — sometimes, eager contributors and developers get things into Fedora that _aren't_ quite ready. Other times, we're too conservative. But I also don't see systemd as a crux of this. Another hot new minimal startup distribution, CoreOS, is _based around_ systemd. In any case, the Fedora.next initiative <http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora.next> is an attempt to work on this balance in new and different ways, with Fedora Cloud in particular being a space for experimenting with some of these new concepts (as that's sort of the incubation space for new OS technologies in the world at large right now). > Debian--> Devuan > Fedora --> Fedoruan? If you're interested in exploring a remix like that, see <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Remix> (although note that "Fedoruan" is probably not acceptable with our trademark guidelines). -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
