On 26.10.2014 00:01, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 10/25/2014 01:31 PM, poma wrote: >> On 25.10.2014 03:19, poma wrote: >>> On 25.10.2014 02:09, poma wrote: >>>> On 25.10.2014 01:31, Stephen Morris wrote: >>>>> On 10/25/2014 01:09 AM, poma wrote: >>>>>> On 24.10.2014 07:50, Stephen Morris wrote: >>>>>>> I have plugged a digital camera into my usb port and mounted it using >>>>>>> the popup displayed from the auto detect via konqueror (this annoys me >>>>>>> as well). When konqueror is launched it displays the contents via >>>>>>> Camera:/ which is okay, but subsequently I can't find any entries under >>>>>>> /run that represent the camera. I assumed there would be a mount point >>>>>>> under /run like there is for a usb flash disk. Given that there appears >>>>>>> to not be a mount point under /run, where is it mounted in Fedora 20, so >>>>>>> that I can point dolphin (which is what should be launched from the >>>>>>> 'Open with File Manager' prompt, not Konqueror) at the mount point >>>>>>> rather than having to manually type Camera:/ into the address bar. >>>>>> ptp != usb_storage >>>>>> >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picture_Transfer_Protocol >>>>>> http://www.gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/ >>>>>> >>>>>> modinfo -d usb_storage >>>>>> USB Mass Storage driver for Linux >>>>>> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/plain/drivers/usb/storage/Kconfig >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> poma >>>>>> >>>>> Thankyou for the links. I looked at those links which gave me a lot more >>>>> information that I didn't know about. Unfortunately the documentation on >>>>> libphoto2 seems to potentially be self conflicting. The list of cameras >>>>> that libphoto2 supports seems to have my Nikon D3100 listed, but the >>>>> list of cameras and how they are supported under Unix does not appear to >>>>> list my camera. >>>>> Following Cameron's email I checked the mount list which seems to >>>>> indicate there is no mount point, which also coincides with the >>>>> available device interface in the system tray not being able to unmount >>>>> the camera before disconnection. >>>>> Also now that I have changed to application preference order in the >>>>> properties of the folder displayed by dolphin, whenever I select 'Open >>>>> with File Manager' at device detection time the process correctly >>>>> launched dolphin to display the contents, whereas yesterday when >>>>> konqueror was the default application, manually pointing dolphin at >>>>> Camera:/ would not display the contents of the camera because dolphin >>>>> was trying to treat the camera as a usb device and couldn't acquire the >>>>> usb. The only issue with dolphin is it doesn't display the folder name >>>>> where the images are stored on the camera as the same name that the >>>>> camera says it is, dolphin seems to be putting its own prefix on the >>>>> folder name. >>>>> Also dolphin seems to be starting at a higher point in the directory >>>>> tree for its displays than where Windows starts. >>>>> DigiKam now seems be displaying the files on the camera now as well, >>>>> whereas yesterday it couldn't either, although digiKam doesn't >>>>> understand the raw format files that I am taking with the camera. I >>>>> could use jpeg images but that is not as good for image manipulation and >>>>> corrections as raw is. I can process these files using the raw interface >>>>> to Photoshop Elements and Elements itself, albeit under windows, so not >>>>> being able to access these under Linux is not that big a deal to me, >>>>> other than the fact that I have to use Windows. >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> Steve >>>>> >>>> Does the Nikon D3100 supports USB mass storage mode? >>>> http://goo.gl/7bGFuh >>>> >>> >>> In this respect manual(D3100_EN.pdf) is questionable >>> http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Nikon-Products/Product/dslr-cameras/D3100.html#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-Support >>> >>> Therefore you can try this *if* the device supports both - PictBridge(PTP) & USB storage, and they collide: >>> >>> /etc/modprobe.d/usb_storage-quirks-Nikon_D3100.conf >>> # Nikon D3100 >>> # >>> # lsusb >>> # ID 04b0:0130 Nikon Corp. Coolpix 4600 (ptp) >>> # ID 04b0:0427 Nikon Corp. >>> # modinfo -p usb_storage >>> # ... >>> # quirks:supplemental list of device IDs and their quirks (string) >>> # >>> # 1. >>> options usb_storage quirks=04b0:0130:i >>> # >>> # 2. >>> # options usb_storage quirks=04b0:0427:i >>> # >>> # 3. >>> # options usb_storage quirks=04b0:0130:i,04b0:0427:i >>> # >>> # *uncomment* only *one* of the three *options* that you'll *use* as the first case! >>> >>> >>> Ref. >>> - https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt >>> .. >>> usb-storage.quirks= >>> [UMS] A list of quirks entries to supplement or >>> override the built-in unusual_devs list. List >>> entries are separated by commas. Each entry has >>> the form VID:PID:Flags where VID and PID are Vendor >>> and Product ID values (4-digit hex numbers) and >>> Flags is a set of characters, each corresponding >>> to a common usb-storage quirk flag as follows: >>> ... >>> i = IGNORE_DEVICE (don't bind to this >>> device); >>> ... >>> Example: quirks=0419:aaf5:rl,0421:0433:rc >>> >>> - https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/usb/hotplug.txt >>> >>> - USB: add Nikon D300 camera to unusual_devs >>> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git/commit/drivers/usb/storage/unusual_devs.h?id=0047ca0 >>> >>> >> BTW >> - Nikon D3100 specifications >> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond3100/page2.asp >> ... >> Connectivity • USB 2.0 (Hi-Speed) >> • Mass storage / PTP selectable >> >> - Digikam support Nikon D3100 >> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.digikam.user/14517 >> >> Xfce >> - USB storage >> $ thunar /run/media/user/</dev/disk/by-uuid/>/ >> >> - MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) >> $ thunar mtp://[usb:<bus>,<devnum>]/ >> >> - PTP (Picture Transfer Protocol) >> $ thunar gphoto2://[usb:<bus>,<devnum>]/ >> >> >> >> Good luck with reading and playing with the device. :) >> >> >> poma >> >> >> Ref. >> Mailing list >> https://www.digikam.org/contact?q=support#mailinglists > Thanks for all the info Poma, there is some very useful information in > those links. Even though the links say the camera is switchable between > the 2 modes I'm not sure whether it is manually switchable. The manual > and camera itself don't have any details on how to do it. It seems as > though it may be automatically switchable depending on the access > mechanism. Under linux it seems to be accessed via PTP but under Windows > (I'll need to double check this) it seems to be accessed in USB Mass > Storage mode as it seems to be mounted as a USB device. I was able to > remove files from the SD card on the camera using dolphin and digiKam > was able to access the files directly by auto navigating down to the > appropriate directory, but GIMP was unable to touch the camera at all. > > regards, > Steve > Yeah this is one possibility, to change the operating modes via apps, like the mechanism used by USB_ModeSwitch. 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