On 09/12/2014 06:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:07:35 +0000 (UTC)
Bill Oliver <vendor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
...
Then let me turn this story around: Where would systemd be if
Poettering wasn't RH-employed and if RH wasn't backing him?
Nowhere. It would be an anecdotal footnote in Linux history, nobody
would remember.
Conversely, it's entirely silly and arrogant to tell people to
"implement something else" and better. Unless RH decides to turn
down systemd, this will not happen to come true.
Ralf
If a project's prevailing attitude is that it is "entirely silly and
arrogant" for users to express their opinions, that does not bode
well for the future of the product.
"the project" has never said any such thing.
to answer Ralf, I think Fedora would still be using systemd if Lennart
wasn't employed by Red Hat.
Likely. But Fedora would never have started to use systemd if Poettering
wasn't RH-employed.
Actually nobody, would have taken notice about systemd.
I think the only relevance that has is that
his employment has allowed him to work on systemd.
I disagree.
After all we were using upstart before that, which was developed at
canonical. (And RHEL6 still is).
Right. Fedora/RHEL would never have have taken notice of upstart if
Canonical weren't using it ;)
Ralf
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