-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/09/2014 11:34 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 11:18:06 -0400 Kelly Miller > <lightsolphoenix@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Yeah, they did... and refuted every single point made there, >> multiple times. > > Can you point out a place where those refutes can be found? I want > to see how one goes about refuting an objective statement. > I'd say that https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd pretty much counters that page point-for-point. Also, almost all of the statements made are not "objective". Nearly all of the statements made are thoroughly subjective (e.g. "systemd flies in the face of the Unix philosophy"). In fact, as I read through that page again, the only verifiable statement made was about the number of CVEs that systemd has experienced. Which is, of course, presented in a way to hide the fact that most of those were not in the init system itself, but in peripheral pieces such as journald. There's no mention of the count of CVEs from sysvinit or upstart, let alone the likely thousands from the kernel itself. In short, this entire page is a troll with no substance. There are plenty of complaints that can be *legitimately* leveled against systemd. The correct way to do this is by filing bugs and feature-enhancement requests. Mindlessly repeating misleading sound-bytes is something better left for cable news stations and off of development mailing lists, please. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlQSBlMACgkQeiVVYja6o6NqwgCgmiG+isOjCfP2yvK3jZqylW6u Og4AnRftq9ECHVzKWh/hkj5vtAl6R0Vg =XrsX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
