Re: why do we use systemd?

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Kevin Fenzi writes:

How do you query this output?  I just look at the logfile, and when
it's not there, I never see it.  What's the advantage of hiding
output like that?

journalctl -u servicename

In all the times I've looked at the man pages for journalctl, I've never noticed this. Instead all I've ever found is some other weirdness about _SYSTEMD_UNIT= (I think, but don't actually remember) which I can never even hope to remember.

Looking at the man page, *now* that you point it out, I see the option. Buried among so much other unintelligible material.

Poettering reminds me of a teenager who thinks the world would be perfect if everybody just did things his (gender-biased language *might* be appropriate here) way. The difference is that distributions are giving Poettering his way.

And in the process, they're tossing out all the well-established ways of doing things. And users are supposed to learn and understand incomprehensible material at the same time they're trying to fix something.

Systemd needs to be a vast improvement to justify this. And it seems that not everyone even agrees that it's an improvement at all.

I really prefer using grep and less on a plain text log file that gets rotated so it is of manageable length. It's simple. It works. It's reliable. Which is just what I need when something is broken.

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