On 03/24/2014 05:24 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
On 24 March 2014 16:11, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 03/24/2014 04:15 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 24 March 2014 15:02, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Wrong. Most servers typically are headless, and if they have a graphic
card-build-in, it's usually inaccessible or unused.
I am actually an IT professional - no, honestly, really I am - and
every single rackmount server I've used in the last few years still
has an SVGA port on it.
But is it used, is it really accessed? I guess no.
Server not responding, plug in monitor + keyboard and check it out.
Often it will get rebooted anyway, but this is a useful tool.
Well, I did not say, "There are no servers w/ GPU". All I said, is the
assumption "all servers were having a usable/accessible graphics is
invalid".
Sometimes the HW doesn't have a GPU, sometimes MoBo is physically
inaccessible/hardly inaccessible, sometimes the GPU is switched
off/disabled, sometimes nobody cared to configure the GPU.
On the other hand, I've also seen cases, where switching on the GPU and
running runlevel 5 on servers helped to reduce power consumption ;)
IMNSHO, UsrMove was a prominent epic fail in the long serious
faulty decisions Fedora's leadership has committed.
We-eeeelll... I am not sure that I could overall disagree with the
general thrust of your argument there. :¬)
No need to do so. RH has implemented facts which have rendered this
discussion moot. IMO, some hidden cabal at RH had decided to pick the
ancient (> 20 years old) idea to abandon separate partions for /usr and /
and to sell it as "revolutionary novelty", instead of shooting it down such
proposals as "Windows way of thinking", as it has been done for 20 years
before :)
It turned out that usrmove was not a bad idea because it was 'windows
thinking', but because it broke compatibility with other distributions
and caused problems with applications that had been written relying on
guarantees in the fs hierarchy. There are other people on this list
who can fill in details on their battles with the results.
;) I have been (and occasionally still am) involved with struggling with
the negative impacts of /UsrMov - These battles are not over, yet.
My primary critism on /UsrMov is the way Red Hat had pushed it. I regret
having to say so, but to me, this was a rude act, accompanied by a
disinformation propaganda campaign.
Ralf
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