On Sun, 2013-09-15 at 10:32 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote: > Hey Tim, since you've been here on the list for years, I'm wondering: > What DE are you running? Did you move to GNOME Shell? I do not like the 3.0 desktop, I find the way it expects us to use it annoying, tedious, and unergonomic. None of my computers are iPads. So, on Fedora and Ubuntu, I have played around with two or three methods of making it behave like 2.0 (and I do not recall which method I used with each). I tried to install Mate on Fedora, but Fedora 17 only had it in a testing repo, if I recall correctly, and I didn't want to open that can of worms. So, it's probably simply just the fallback option. I want the traditional, organised, menus. Not screens of icons. I want the traditional windows and workspace switchers. I want the taskbar, and I want applications to use their own taskbar at the top of their own window, and not behave like a Mac with top taskbar that keeps changing between desktop taskbar and different application taskbars. However, making 3.0 look like 2.0 doesn't get around a nasty problem or two. 3.0 is much more CPU intensive, and I seriously doubt that I could even get it to run on some of my older PCs. I also get that annoying "a problem has occurred" pop-up error message each time I log on, with no clue about *what* damn error it is, and things seem to work fine, anyway, whatever that error was. I avoid KDE, because I don't like it. Old Gnome's defaults were reasonably good, I have to configure the wazoo out KDE to make it tolerable. I don't want to do that umpteen times across several computers, and I still don't like it's Fisherprice/WindowsXP look, it's messy menus, and the plethora of hideously K-named applications. I have tried, at various times, other desktops, but keep coming back to Gnome 2.0 as the way that I wanted it to be like, and an imitation was always half-arsed compared to using the actual thing. Several of the lighter desktops were seriously lacking in things that I found really annoying. Such as how removable media mounting/demounting was cumbersome, and less automated. And things like pulseaudio being a pain, rather than something that just worked. Plus various applications that I wanted to use were Gnome, so using another desktop wouldn't get around the heavy Gnome baggage. I have to seriously wonder what goes through the minds of designers. If you asked them to come up with a modern teacup, the handle would be on the inside, it wouldn't stand upright, you'd need to buy new teaspoons, and replace your dining table. As you can see, I am slightly against it. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
