Am 14.07.2013 15:12, schrieb Frank Murphy: > On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:55:02 +0200 > Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Didn't know wherer you wanted to post back to list? > If yes, I will. i had the list also as RCPT a well as now so no need to re-post it makes pretty no sense having a discussion where answers are releaed Tuesday because moderation and until then are out of context >> Am 14.07.2013 14:41, schrieb Frank Murphy: >>> On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 00:51:05 +0200 >>> lee <lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> Why not make it one of the great features of Fedora? Then take >>>> it to the next step and make systemd send mails in case a service >>>> couldn't be started or has issues, >>> >>> You can do that yourself currently >> >> and do this automatically is a bad idea > > But, "lee" asked for it as feature, no need, > is what was I was answering. and i added information >> how often should the ybe sent if a service goes crazy >> and starts crashing 5 seconds after start, is restarted >> by "Restart=always" and flooding your inbox - such behavior >> is known as "self DOS" if implemented not 100% perfect > > Not, if "lee" don't use Restart=Always, > and would like to know if service x fails, > so he can then have a look at it. you do not know which servic es are using it in the future after the damage is done it's to let to think about the impact >> i have scripts parsing /var/log/messages and sent out notifies >> every 30 minutes if something went wrong, all important services >> have Restart=always and so i only need to know that it >> happened and how often it happens > > Knowing it broke, is not always enough, > "lee" might want to debug it. > Maybe he's a developer?, > he hasn't provided that info as yet and after i have my notify that "service X" crashed 5 times in the last 30 minutes i can also start debugging, if i see soemthing crashs too often and if i have yet time to debug that's why it should be good considered *when* and *how often* you get so notifies, it's not easier to debug if you are at it and you get each minute a new notify nor does it help much having in the morning 100 messages saying "service X has a problem" that's all about rate-limiting and collectiong relevant infos without too much noise all day long - if it get's too much you simply start ignore the notifies leading to ignore sooner or later a really imporant one
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