Joe Zeff <joe@xxxxxxx> writes: > On 07/10/2013 03:06 PM, lee wrote: >> When upgrading Fedora the way it's recommended works so well, then how >> come that people are suggesting that it's better/easier to re-install or >> to use an alternative, untested method? >> > > There are always going to be people who prefer to start fresh with a > clean install of every version, and some of them are going to > recommend it to others, often without explaining why they prefer it. > The same goes for just about any method that can be used to go from > one version to the next. Have you ever considered asking these people > why the don't like using the official upgrade path? I know that I > certainly would before taking their advice, and I'd think long and > carefully about their reasons, because I understand that what works > right for them may be exactly the wrong thing for me if my > circumstances don't match theirs. I have been assuming that people re-install because their experience is that upgrading is so troublesome that they figure that they're better off re-installing. Why would anyone go to the lengths of re-installing if there weren't very serious problems with upgrading? >> Not knowing why upgrading didn't work last time and why merely updating >> went wrong now is fine to begin with. However, I'd like to know why >> things went wrong, and I would gladly contribute to finding out why and >> how they went wrong so that things can be improved upon. > > Have you checked Bugzilla to see if there are any reported bugs with > effects similar to yours? If there aren't, have you considered > reporting this? If you haven't checked, why not? (This isn't a > challenge, BTW, but a serious question; you may have good reasons not > to be doing this, and if so, I might learn something from them.) I haven't checked yet because I don't know what to look for. I have considered reporting it and haven't yet because I don't know about which package I should make a bug report and because I don't have any helpful information to provide yet. For all I know, what happened might even be intended, and perhaps everything fixes itself when I actually try to upgrade. Besides, I made a bug report last time which didn't seem to have any outcome (/maybe/ they modified fedup so that it doesn't overwrite its logfile every time it runs --- at least that's what I'd suggest ...); another one I made has apparently been moved over to F19 and it might be fixed there, who knows. Just making a bug report without real information doesn't seem a very useful thing to do, and I didn't really have time to look into it yet. The question is still: What has 'yum update' done? I only know it did something to the boot manager which it shouldn't have. -- Fedora 18 -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org