Tim: >>> It became the biggest OS infestation by devious business practices >>> shoehorning it into personal computers. David: >> Careful. Your paranoia is showing. :-) g: > that is not paranoia, it is a fact that cause a grand jury investigation. > > or, are you old enough to be aware of such? I'm taking David's comment as a humourous response. Anyone who thought that Windows got where it has purely on its merits would have to be extremely deluded or ignorant. My other grandma comments were playing devil's advocate. Anybody who is capable of learning how to use a computer, even if in the most basic way, is capable of learning how to use a Windows, Mac, or Linux PC. They're all kind of similar in operation, and with modern menus it's fairly easy to do basic stuff (easier on Linux, I'd say, as you've got an organised menu that the others don't have, they just shovel everything in randomly), and all kind of hard to do harder stuff. So, as far as I'm concerned, anybody's grandma who can switch on their computer and do email with Windows, can do the same with their Mac, or Linux box. They'll all take about as long to learn the basics. So the argument that only Windows is suitable for grandma is all bull. The other point I was making was that barely-basic-computer-literate grandma would be just as incapable of getting a broken computer to work again, with any of the OSs. Likewise with installing new software, or reconfiguring existing software. So, again, stating that only Windows is suitable for grandma is a load of bull. None of the OSs are really suitable for clueless people. Even the dumb/smart clients which are just an interface to software running out on a cloud are just as bad. If the user is accessing them through a web browser, they're still at risk of doing something dangerous through their web browser (visiting malware sites, falling for confirming their banking details to fishers, et cetera). And if they have some simpler interface for the software that the cloud offers to them, they're just as likely to make a hash of using that as software that actually runs on their computer. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.8.4-102.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Mar 24 13:09:09 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. My apologies for not including a virus with this message, but I don't use Windows. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org