On 4/14/2013 7:06 AM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 13 April 2013, David sent: >> I actually know several (nine) 'old time Linux' users and some are ex >> Redhat employes as well as commercial (as in paid sys admins) that say >> that the Ubuntu list is full of useless information. Much of it flat out >> wrong. Careful. The usual tip off, they say, is "Try this. It might work". > > And this is different to Windows, how? There's an awful lot of > ham-fisted doddering about to *try* and make it do what it's supposed to > do. > >> All I meant was that befer you 'move someone to Linux', of any kind, you >> need to understand that Linux use is still, mostly, limited to 'us geeks' > > Again, how is this different from Windows? Sure, hopeless computer > users can use any OS while it's working. But it still takes a "geek" to > make Windows behave itself. The average computer user hasn't a chance. > >> All of which means? IMHO. Linux is cool but not really ready, yet, for >> grandma. > > Nor is Windows. Nor do I think it will ever be. > >> Because? When $hit goes bad, or just does not work, with Linux it >> actually takes someone that knows what they are doing to fix it. Or >> reinstall it so that it works again. >> >> IMHO? Grandma does not want to deal with that. My mother, grandma to my >> kids, would not want any part of that if she was still alive. > > And can she fix Windows? Does she know the need to defrag, can she do > it? Can she repair the damage from a virus that her anti-virus software > didn't detect until it was too late? Can she install new software? Can > she sort out an install that didn't go right? Can she debug why the > whole computer crashes and bluescreens while trying to do something > basic with the grandson's birthday video in Windows Movie Maker? Or any > of the plethora of other day-to-day Windows screw-ups? Fix it? She has never broken it. > I'd be very surprised if the answer to any of that was "yes" for your > grandma, or any others. I can't remember seeing any Windows home > computer that wasn't a mess. > > Windows did not get where it is by being better, easier, more reliable, > nor any other reason that would justify itself. It became the biggest > OS infestation by devious business practices shoehorning it into > personal computers. > Careful. Your paranoia is showing. :-) -- David -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org