Hey all.
I'm confused over the whole separate /usr partition is broken thing:http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken
From an email in current fedora-user thread we have:
"That should not be necessary. And would break a very normal system
setup of using separate drives, even more so than the blasted can't have
a separate /usr thing that happened recently."
"That should not be necessary. And would break a very normal system
setup of using separate drives, even more so than the blasted can't have
a separate /usr thing that happened recently."
Everything appears to work swimmingly here after 1 month of use -- separate /usr partition does not appear to be broken...anymore??
FWIW, as a beginner the benefits I see in a diverse micro-managed partitioning scheme (vs. the mega partition) is being able to fsck quickly; clone partitions quickly (e.g. copy to additional disks), and prevent runaway logs and the like (there are likely others).
I'm thinking something like this would be "ideal" for a 256GB SSD:
/dev/sda1 /boot 181MB of 500MB
/dev/sda2 / 606MB of 3GB
extended:
/dev/sda4 /usr 6.0GB of 12GB
/dev/sda5 /var 1.5GB of 8GB
/dev/sda6 /home 15GB of 30GBfree space the rest
Of course most seem to go with /boot / and /home, so my ideas are likely not grounded in reality ;-)
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1. Using Exim as a controlled relayer (Gary Stainburn)
2. Re: Booting issues (Reindl Harald)
3. Re: yum erase unused dependencies (Frank Murphy)
4. Re: Limit of file siae on USB drives? (Patrick O'Callaghan)
5. Re: yum erase unused dependencies (Patrick O'Callaghan)
6. Fedora 18 network printer setup (D. Hugh Redelmeier)
7. Re: Booting issues (Tim)
8. Re: Limit of file siae on USB drives? (Tim)
9. Re: undo rm -rf * (Tim)
10. Re: Using Exim as a controlled relayer (Tim)
11. Re: undo rm -rf * (Rejy M Cyriac)
12. Re: Fedora 18 network printer setup (Tim Waugh)
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From: Gary Stainburn <gary.stainburn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc:
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:47:40 +0000
Subject: Using Exim as a controlled relayer
I've managed to get the Exim + Pgsql setup working.
For the domains I'm hosting I have a set of records which contain an email
address within the domain and an delivery email address, e.g.
user@hosted.domain -> gary.stainburn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
When I test this using
exim -bt user@hosted.domain
it works fine, but when I try to send an email it fails
relay not permitted.
Obviously i do not want to turn on relaying, so how can I configure Exim to
allow emails that have matched a record in the user table to be forwarded?
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From: Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:50:19 +0100
Subject: Re: Booting issues
Am 26.03.2013 22:28, schrieb Kinkaid:
> As I dug around the boot up process a little, I found a curious message about /mnt/usbdisk which was a usb drive I
> had setup shortly before all the latest bit happened. I guess the init process was hanging when it was trying to
> mount the usb drive and that was halting the whole process. After I removed the offending entry from /etc/fstab
> all boots up normally now
"noauto" is your friend and the last bit to zero which indicates at least "no fsck"
never configure temporary drives as like built-in ones
[root@localhost:~]$ cat /etc/fstab | grep noauto
UUID=ea140964-634c-4fce-b587-9ce6a21b4cf9 /mnt/fileserver-backup ext4 rw,noexec,noatime,noauto 0 0
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From: Frank Murphy <frankly3d@xxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:55:20 +0000
Subject: Re: yum erase unused dependencies
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:40:46 +0100
Michael Schwendt <mschwendt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:32:59 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>
> > I recall last year a discussion of using yum to remove unwanted
> > packages, and tell it to remove only dependencies which were used
> > by no other package. I can't seem to find how that was done in my
> > notes, could someone give me a pointer to the method?
>
> yum list yum\*
> yum info yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves
>
you could add the following to /etc/yum.conf
"clean_requirements_on_remove=1"
--
Regards,
Frank
http//www.frankly3d.com
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From: Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:20:02 -0430
Subject: Re: Limit of file siae on USB drives?
On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 13:55 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/26/2013 01:32 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> > You can either split up your file or format the flash drive with a
> > different filesystem. If you reformat it, it probably won't be usable
> > under other OSes though.
>
> If such things matter, you can do this to create a flash drive that the
> various snoopy government agencies can't easily read, without going to
> the bother of encrypting it, especially as some of them claim the right
> to demand encryption keys. It's not your fault that they're using a
> dain-bramaged OS that can't read OSS file systems, such as ext4, is it?
You mean like the one in my set-top box?
poc
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From: Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:22:49 -0430
Subject: Re: yum erase unused dependencies
On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 20:40 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:32:59 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>
> > I recall last year a discussion of using yum to remove unwanted packages, and
> > tell it to remove only dependencies which were used by no other package. I can't
> > seem to find how that was done in my notes, could someone give me a pointer to
> > the method?
>
> yum list yum\*
> yum info yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves
>
> --
> Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat) - Linux 3.9.0-0.rc3.git1.4.fc19.x86_64
> loadavg: 0.15 0.08 0.06
package-cleanup can also be useful in this context.
poc
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From: "D. Hugh Redelmeier" <hugh@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Fedora user-lists <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc:
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 01:41:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Fedora 18 network printer setup
I have a Brother DCP-7065dn printer scanner connected to my LAN.
Sadly, it requires a proprietary driver. I've installed that.
<http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/index.html>
I asked the System Settings: Printers to set it up (add the printer).
The SS:P found the printer (so it must have found its IP address) and
added it. But the SS:P was only willing to configure it with the IP
Address "localhost". Not surprisingly, printing didn't work.
I even tried telling SS:P the printer's IP address, but it ignored
that and used localhost.
I used SS:P to remove the printer again.
I used the CUPS web server to add the printer (as suggested on the
Brother page). That worked. My printer has a static IP address,
which made pointing Firefox at it easier.
Why would Systems Settings: Printers not be able to add this network
printer?
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From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:20:22 +1030
Subject: Re: Booting issues
Kinkaid, Kyle:
>> I'm having some boot problems on my Fedora 18 workstation, KDE Spin.
>>
>>
>> System background:
>>
>> I have a Dell Precision workstation, with two HDs, and full disk
>> encryption. The two HDs are combined into three logical volumes,
>> swap, root, and /home.
Richard Vickery:
> I think I had a like problem to this that I solved by putting the
> partitions on the same drive, rather than using separate ones.
That should not be necessary. And would break a very normal system
setup of using separate drives, even more so than the blasted can't have
a separate /usr thing that happened recently.
I've used separate home drives, in the past, as a very simple way of
being able to safely update a server without any chance of screwing up
user data. Others have used separate swap drives as a way of speeding
up swap, should you ever be stuck with having to make use of it. It's
bad enough to have to use a drive for swap space, without having to put
up with the thrashing of alternating between swapping and everything
else it's trying to access on the drive.
Anyway, I note the original poster says they've solved their problem.
--
[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp
Linux 3.8.3-103.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Mar 18 15:46:01 UTC 2013 x86_64
All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point
trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the
public lists.
My apologies for not including a virus with this message, but I don't
use Windows.
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From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:23:27 +1030
Subject: Re: Limit of file siae on USB drives?
Allegedly, on or about 26 March 2013, Joe Zeff sent:
> If such things matter, you can do this to create a flash drive that
> the various snoopy government agencies can't easily read, without
> going to the bother of encrypting it, especially as some of them claim
> the right to demand encryption keys. It's not your fault that they're
> using a dain-bramaged OS that can't read OSS file systems, such as
> ext4, is it?
It strikes me that the "snoopy" services will probably have no trouble
reading something as un-bizarre as ext4. I dare say that such things
are child's play to them. It would be a tech that would assess
hardware, not just any member of their staff.
--
[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp
Linux 3.8.3-103.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Mar 18 15:46:01 UTC 2013 x86_64
All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point
trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the
public lists.
My apologies for not including a virus with this message, but I don't
use Windows.
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From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:28:29 +1030
Subject: Re: undo rm -rf *
Allegedly, on or about 26 March 2013, bruce sent:
> as a face saving process... always test what ever you're going to do
> when using RM <<< and then substitute ls for rm to see what the
> results would be...
I would, also, think carefully about whether you really do need the
force flag. Some people just jam that in out of habit.
--
[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp
Linux 3.8.3-103.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Mar 18 15:46:01 UTC 2013 x86_64
All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point
trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the
public lists.
My apologies for not including a virus with this message, but I don't
use Windows.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:31:13 +1030
Subject: Re: Using Exim as a controlled relayer
Allegedly, on or about 26 March 2013, Gary Stainburn sent:
> When I test this using
>
> exim -bt user@hosted.domain
>
> it works fine, but when I try to send an email it fails
>
> relay not permitted.
>
> Obviously i do not want to turn on relaying, so how can I configure
> Exim to allow emails that have matched a record in the user table to
> be forwarded?
Bearing in mind your bowlderised example, my simplistic answer would be
to use real domain names (that you own) in your network. Things work a
lot easier when you don't use fake domain names. Being able to email
between machines, for just one example.
--
[tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp
Linux 3.8.3-103.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Mar 18 15:46:01 UTC 2013 x86_64
All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point
trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the
public lists.
My apologies for not including a virus with this message, but I don't
use Windows.
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From: Rejy M Cyriac <rcyriac@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:25:31 +0530
Subject: Re: undo rm -rf *
On 03/27/2013 11:28 AM, Tim wrote:
> Allegedly, on or about 26 March 2013, bruce sent:
>> as a face saving process... always test what ever you're going to do
>> when using RM <<< and then substitute ls for rm to see what the
>> results would be...
>
> I would, also, think carefully about whether you really do need the
> force flag. Some people just jam that in out of habit.
>
Reminded me of another dangerous habit some people get into - exiting
'vi/vim' with ':wq!' always.
--
Regards,
Rejy M Cyriac (rmc)
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From: Tim Waugh <twaugh@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "D. Hugh Redelmeier" <hugh@xxxxxxxxxx>, Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc:
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 09:44:29 +0000
Subject: Re: Fedora 18 network printer setup
On Wed, 2013-03-27 at 01:41 -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
> I have a Brother DCP-7065dn printer scanner connected to my LAN.
>
> Sadly, it requires a proprietary driver. I've installed that.
> <http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/index.html>
>
> I asked the System Settings: Printers to set it up (add the printer).
> The SS:P found the printer (so it must have found its IP address) and
> added it. But the SS:P was only willing to configure it with the IP
> Address "localhost". Not surprisingly, printing didn't work.
>
> I even tried telling SS:P the printer's IP address, but it ignored
> that and used localhost.
That's odd. What output does this command give?:
su -c 'lpinfo -l -v'
(I'm hoping it lists the network printer there...)
Tim.
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