I upgraded one laptop - a Thinkpad T60 - to F-18, and have had 4 problems, each of which I would consider fatal. I have another Thinkpad - a T61 - still running F-17, which I use for comparison. 1. Sleep problem. When re-awaking from Sleep, whether that was started from the f-menu or by closing the lid, about 60% of the time the screen starts flashing on and off each couple of seconds, and the machine has to be stopped by pressing the power button, and re-started. 2. KMail Possibly due to the above problem, the akonadi database became corrupted, preventing KMail from starting. After failing to mend the database, I deleted ~/.local/share/akonadi/* . This allows KMail to re-start, but after several hours the database has only been 1/4 filled, and seems to have stopped filling. I can read my email from an IMAP server on the T61, so no mail was lost. 3. NM This is behaving in an incomprehensible way, with WiFi getting slower and slower after re-starting NM. Here is an example pinging my home server on each laptop. Under F-18: -------------------------------- [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager.service [tim@blanche ~]$ ping grover PING grover (192.168.2.5) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.26 ms 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=1.29 ms 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=10.9 ms --- grover ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.267/4.501/10.944/4.555 ms [tim@blanche ~]$ ping grover PING grover (192.168.2.5) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=218 ms 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=141 ms 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=263 ms --- grover ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2002ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 141.613/207.600/263.131/50.157 ms [tim@blanche ~]$ ping grover PING grover (192.168.2.5) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=632 ms 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=785 ms 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=1262 ms -------------------------------- Under F-17: -------------------------------- [tim@rose ~]$ ping grover PING grover (192.168.2.5) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=1.48 ms 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=1.67 ms 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=1.86 ms --- grover ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.486/1.676/1.869/0.159 ms [tim@rose ~]$ ping grover PING grover (192.168.2.5) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=1.55 ms 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=1.46 ms 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=1.37 ms --- grover ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2007ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.370/1.464/1.555/0.081 ms [tim@rose ~]$ ping grover PING grover (192.168.2.5) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=3.54 ms 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=1.26 ms 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=1.27 ms --- grover ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.269/2.030/3.546/1.072 ms [tim@rose ~]$ ping grover PING grover (192.168.2.5) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=1.27 ms 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=1.17 ms 64 bytes from grover (192.168.2.5): icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=1.23 ms -------------------------------- The laptops were in exactly the same location. In each case the other laptop was switched off. 4. OpenVPN has ceased to work, although correct certs are in place. I haven't examined the reason for this, as the other problems are already fatal. Incidentally, I installed F-18 from the KDE Live ISO, transferred to a USB stick, and keeping the /home partition from F-17. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org