One of my F17 machines hardly ever manages to boot. It's an old Dell PowerEdge SC1420, and it did fine with all the previous Fedora releases, and fine until recently with F17. Now it hits the monitor's error message "input signal out of range." But sometimes, if I leave it long enough, it does get to the login screen, and after that works normally. Time was when I'd've tried editing some configuration file in / boot/grub or /etc/X11; but the only such I can find now start with "Do NOT EDIT" -- so I'm out of my depth. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Sometime Historian of Tongues Sclerotic Squirreler, Double Retiree, Linux Convert No one can ever have enough books, pockets, friends, knives, guns, garlic, or mountains. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org