On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Veeti Paananen <veeti.paananen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Vuze gobbled up 160 megabytes instantly which is completely > unacceptable for a torrent client. I haven't tested myself but I'll take your figure at face value. So what? There's bloated apps in c,c++, java, you name it. I run a Java based FTP server that is 48 KB big and uses about 9M of ram http://peter.sorotokin.com/ftpd/ftpd.jar Back to Vuze, that figure is less than 8% of available RAM on a 2GB system and 16% of RAM on a 1GB RAM system. Also, Vuze is much more than a simple Bittorrent client, it provides embedded playback, cd burning, etc. Comparing it with uTorrent is like comparing SeaMonkey suite to Chromium... A small price to pay to have the same app running on any OS with a JVM available instead of having to start the "oh please, someone port app xyz to my favorite OS, pleeaaase". H*ck there' s even OpenJDK ports these days for non-mainstream OSs like FreeBSD and OS/2, FWIW**. SECOND PART, toolkits... Swing provides native look and feel on Windows, GTK, and OSX. Not all Java apps use it, like not all C++ desktop apps use QT or GTK... you need to call setNativeLookAndFeel http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/javase/6_desktop_features/ here two screenshots of muCommander on Windows XP, Fedora 17 and Win7 for your visual comparison 1. MuCommander on WinXP with native LookAndFeel http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/6668/java6swingwinxpnativelo.jpg 2. MuCommander on Fedora 17 with native (GTK) LookAndFeel http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/3637/javamucommanderf17.png as you can see it extends to most widgets too: http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2057/javagtknativelookwidget.png 3. Java app muCommander with native LAF on Win7 http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1148/javamucommanderwin7nati.jpg [ App is "muCommander" from http://ho.io/mucommander - JWS launcher http://ho.io/mu-commander ] What you probably loathe is the default "Metal" or "Nimbus" look of Java apps, if you don´t call the Native look and feel API. (probably old apps designed to run on Java 1.4 or earlier, although many recently updated apps do not use native look and feel for whatever reason, mostly because the authors have not even heard of the new APIs since Java 5 onwards...). (4) Just my $0.02 FC 4. "Ugly" look (Nimbus) with no native look and feel api call... http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/374/javanimbuslaf.png ** ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9-stable/Latest/openjdk7.tbz http://svn.netlabs.org/java/ -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
